13
Zelensky Continues To Oppose Wartime Democracy Amidst Escalated Election Demands (news.antiwar.com)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml
24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[+] -13 points 2 months ago (16 children)

You know Russia is doing the exact same thing....right? That's literally how conscription works.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 16 child comments
    •
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago* (14 children)

    The last line of western cope: "everyone is secretly as bad as us"

    Show me one video of a Russian person being kidnapped into a military van

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 14 child comments
    •
  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    the videos of random ukranians stopping what they're doing to help fight the conscription officers have been giving me a lot of hope for humanity.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    When pointing out how bad "the other guy" is for doing something bad...it helps to not also be doing the same thing. Calling out that hypocrisy, isn't "cope"...ignoring it, is.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
    •
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's well documented that Ukrainians are being kidnapped, heavily abused and then sent to die on the front lines. This is what being governed by actual Nazis is like. Like fuck, AZOV is literally the main branch of the military.

    busification.org

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Dude. It's called conscription. And both Russia and Ukraine are doing it. It's pretty standard practice during times of war. Acting like it's "kidnapping" when one side does it, but "recruitment" when the other side does, is pretty disingenuous.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Conscription usually carries the option of prison time if you refuse, not literally becoming cannon fodder. If a nation not aligned with the western hegemony did that we'd have you libs calling it authoritarian, a crime against humanity, probably even a genocide, but let's not let Ukrainians decide on a matter as important as the war in Ukraine.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Snap out of your debate pervert fugue state and focus.

    One video. Russian person being busified by Russian military. Go.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You mean videos like this one? Or, this one?

    Seriously. How do you take a position on topics that you clearly don't know anything about? Videos like these are all over the internet. Pretending they don't exist is kind of weird, man.

    It's also not some grand secret that Russia is running out of front line troops, and has resorted to using mandatory conscription to refill their ranks. It's literally public information. The Russian government puts out public notices about it...but here you are, acting all surprised? Like this is the first you've heard of it, and can't believe it's true?

    Really?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
    •
  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I'm not downloading Instagram to watch the first video, but the second one is hilarious. Just footage of a police raid with tech video stock music and a chiron that says shit like "Reports say, human rights groups concerned, accusations that" without a single proper noun, citation, or human face or voice. It feels like something I'd see edited together for a news reel inside of a video game, meant to look believable at a glance but devoid of substance. I think you got slopped man, but i would encourage everyone to watch the video and decide for themselves.

    It’s also not some grand secret that Russia is running out of front line troops

    Just like how it was no secret that they were about to run out of ammo and collapse in 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025?

    And blah blah blah the liberal continues trying to equate regular conscription, which sucks enough, to a reign of nazi terror with kidnapping squads so hated by the entire citizenry that they are often attacked on sight.

    Must be a day ending in Y. Anyway, who do you got to win this war?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    You mean videos like this one? Or, this one?

    That's Ukraine, the second video even uses AI slop for the thumbnail lol

    It’s also not some grand secret that Russia is running out of front line troops, and has resorted to using mandatory conscription to refill their ranks. It’s literally public information. The Russian government puts out public notices about it…but here you are, acting all surprised? Like this is the first you’ve heard of it, and can’t believe it’s true?

    Projection

    Really?

    Cope

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent