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[–] 90 points 2 months ago* (18 children)

Trump's support has fallen by another 0.1% this month! It will be soon.

Here are some approval ratings for context:

  • Trump: 39.5%
  • Merz: 14%
  • Macron: 27%
  • Starmer (just before resigning): 23%

Trump's lowest ever approval rating in RCP's average was 37% (Dec 2017), which was around the time it was revealed to the public Trump aided the Russian military in attacking US targets.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    For context Germany (Merz) isnt a 2 Party-System. Basically we have 4 Major ones currently (afd, spd, cdu, green) and a few minor ones (left, left but pro russia, libs). With the major ones usually getting double digits % and the minor ones barely make it over 5% which is the baseline to participate in parliament. There are also very small parties listed as "misc" getting 10-20 of votes but not participating in parliament. Imo this 5% barrier and ignoring 20% of votes is a problem.

    Anyhow, if the votes concluded its normal that multiple parties form alliances and agree which policies they want to implement to get over the 50% threshold. Mostly dropping anything the voters wanted and implementing stuff rich people want under the blanket of "finding compromises".

    While 14% is really bad it's also just harder to get everyone behind you in such a plural political scene. Also Merz said stuff to insult about any worker. But the policies are particularly bad for workers yet the (self attributed) workers party SPD agreed to these policies. So Merz is problematic but it's 2 whole parties that are problematic and outright lie during elections.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    For context Germany (Merz) isnt a 2 Party-System. (sic)

    Sure, that's true. Angela Merkel's approval rating, however, reached as high as 77%.

    Imo this 5% barrier and ignoring 20% of votes is a problem.

    I am also not a fan of the 5% threshold. If, as opinion polls now suggest could be a real possibility, the AfD manages to gain an absolute majority with less than 50% of the vote in Saxony-Anhalt, it will be more than a problem but a full-fledged constitutional crisis.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Sure, that’s true. Angela Merkel’s approval rating, however, reached as high as 77%.

    that mostly is a question of how the question is being asked, like you could ask merz approve/disapprove, or does he do a good/bad job...

    but for merkel in regards to her doing a "good" job.... suprisingly many people thought that, see https://www.statista.com/chart/23144/merkel-opinion-polls-since-2005/

    and as far as i can tell, the "14%" number is voters from another party's approval rating of merz, see https://min.news/en/world/1507853cbdd8c108c09a91cd4c3a9850.html

    The support rate of the Union Party dropped to 27%, and the support rate of the Social Democratic Party dropped to 13%.

    which would make a lot more sense.

    but the fact remains, that merz is quite unpopular due to his political agenda, and him opening his mouth

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Finland also has a multi-party system. Our current government is an alliance of a right-wing party, an even more right-wing party (now with verified nazis) and two small fillers that are now also right-wing parties. Hooray for democracy.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    What y'all need is Count Binface!

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    we have Martin Sonneborn from Die Partei, they fill the same role, and also had (have) seats in the european union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_PARTEI

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for that info.

    I know almost nothing about German politics. Is rebuilding the Berlin wall something people actually want?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    not seriously... it is meant as a jab at people complaining how back before the reunification everything was better (east and west alike), and the joke that it will create a lot of jobs :D

    and "the wall" does not only mean Berlin... there were walls, fences, barbed wire all across the border between west Germany and the gdr

    and if you compare binface and die partei... the "mandatory" knoppers (kinda like a sweet snack bar) break i would liken to the 99flakes for 99p from the bin :D

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Do these mean anything compared between countries?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    They mean whatever you want them to mean.

    Obviously, a different electoral system will affect the approval rating of politicians. Nevertheless, I think it illustrates the deeply servile attitude of Americans towards their politicians, especially considering none of the other examples have had scandals anything like the 100th-worst scandal of Trump, and while I don't agree with the politics of any of the others, one could at least make the case they were trying to run the country.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I think it illustrates the deeply servile attitude of Americans towards their politicians

    i do not think that this assessment can be made...

    but the statistics can be compared to their own earlier stats, and that also paints a bleak picture for trump

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Does it? He's been around the 40%-mark throughout most of his first term and the current term so far. I don't think there is a reason to expect his approval rating to suddenly crater, unless a sex tape with him and Hilary Clinton were to be uncovered.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    yep.. and the 40% were already the lowest rating in history iirc... so it just shows that he is doing worse now

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Definitely not the lowest in history - Nixon hit far lower ratings, despite doing a far better job and being hit by far fewer and far less severe scandals.

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