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cw: responding to your image

uhh ... i understand the image quite well but i'm not sure about it ... i think that i disagree.

there is a ban on suicide for a reason. if you kill yourself, that means that you signal to the universe that you don't want to exist, so you don't get reborn. so this wouldn't actually work the way that the author intended at all.

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  • cw: responding to your response! CW as it's all musings on the ethics of the afterlife and suicide.

    spoilerEh, it all depends on how you assume reincarnation works. Maybe suicide is morally wrong; maybe it just isn't. Maybe karma exists and affects what your next life is; maybe karma doesn't exist and it's just a random spin of the wheel no matter how you live your previous life. Maybe there's only one soul, and that soul bounces back and forth forward and backwards in time, eventually living every human life from the beginning of time to the end of time. Maybe karma does exist, but the grand cosmic ledger sees suicide as a likely outcome for certain lifetimes and doesn't punish souls for it. If 41% of trans people attempt, well, it seems pretty cruel for the universe to punish people for an outcome the universe itself made extremely likely in the first place.

    It's like God making people gay and then punishing them for it. I just can't believe in such a deity. At some point the core idea of reincarnation - a grand cosmic balancing of good and evil - just stops making sense when you're punishing people for actions they ultimately had little control over. I personally don't see anything wrong with say, assisted suicide. I refuse to believe in any model of the afterlife that punishes people simply for opting out of a slow and agonizing death. If there's a god, and that god gives you the choice, "suffer painfully for a years-long slow drawn-out death or end your life early and be punished with hell/negative reincarnation," I would consider such a god to be evil. If anyone believes in a god that makes people trans and then punishes them for it? I would say they're worshiping the devil. I cannot believe in an evil god or an evil system of reincarnation. It just violates the entire core premise of their being some final cosmic righting of wrongs and a grand reckoning of good and evil. If I'm going to believe in an afterlife, it has to be one where people who do evil in this life cannot escape the consequences of it, and people who tried to live good live aren't punished for things beyond their control.

    I just have a real hard time with any religious model that punishes people for suicide. People either commit suicide to avoid a certain and terrible fate, (like assisted suicide after a terminal diagnosis), or they commit suicide when they're literally not of sound mind. In most cases, it seems to me that the "not guilty by reason of insanity" idea would apply.

    I can imagine a few rare scenarios where suicide would be worthy of punishment. For example, maybe when a school shooter kills themselves to keep from being arrested. Or maybe if you committed suicide as a deliberate act of malice? Maybe then it would be worthy of punishment. Like imagine if someone had such strong hate for their ex that it literally was greater than their will to live. They want to hurt someone more than they want to keep on living. Maybe they go to their ex's home, wait til they open the door, pull out a gun and blow their own head off right in front of them, their brain spattering all over them. All done with the sole intention of causing deep lifelong trauma to the other person. Suicide as an act of deliberate malice. Those are the only kinds of odd scenarios where I can see suicide as being worthy of punishment. Suicide not as an act of individual despair, but out of a deliberate intention to hurt others. But someone simply doing it out of hopelessness, loss, and pain? I cannot believe in any religion that would punish people for doing that. At some point the arbiters of cosmic justice would have to ask, "they were already in so much pain that they literally ended their life, with no guarantee that anything would come after. Haven't they suffered enough?"

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