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[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 60 points 3 months ago (26 children) The US will need decades to recover from this. permalink fedilink source hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 months ago* (19 children) I’m a Canadian but I strongly suspect the US will never fully recover from where they are now. Even just consider international relations - Trump has irreparably damaged America’s relationship with Canada. I seriously doubt Canada will ever fully trust the USA again. A stark contrast to 10 years ago when we had one of the strongest allied relationships on the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall. but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests.. probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china. permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago It will again, but it will take decades and huge changes on the part of the USA permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children) Old people die. Young people take over. What does canadas youth think of americas youth? Those are the only opinions that matter, ultimately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago You're not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter. I'm pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago This is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 point 3 months ago Oh to be young and naive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago As long as I can keep visiting Messorem Brewing in Montreal. I'm from a quality blue state and spend a lot of $$ on beer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -22 points 3 months ago (11 children) Yeah I don't know why we ever pretended that exists, Canada is a nation whose entire cultural identity is resentment at being mistaken for American, and some of them speak even snootier French than the French do. We're not friends, we've never been friends, it's probably healthy to stop pretending we're friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago* (8 children) It really doesn’t sound like you know much about Canada or Canadians. Very much a “shit Americans say” comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago (7 children) You haven't banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago You know what? I like Canadians even more now. Come visit NZ whenever you like permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Gutter French is snootier? permalink fedilink source parent [–] shirasho@feddit.online 77 points 3 months ago (5 children) I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage. We need a complete change in trajectory to recover, and left unchecked the GOP and DNC will burn the country to the ground before they let that happen. Nothing short of a French medieval device will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago We’re not that right leaning, our political system gives too much power to empty land that happens to have a few right wing nuts living there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago I will add, even once US recovers from this, people killed by ICE aren't coming back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage. I don't believe its impossible. Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Napster153@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago It's the Fall of Rome. Sooner or later, there'll be military crisis as charismatic leaders tear the nation apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 months ago* (19 children) I’m a Canadian but I strongly suspect the US will never fully recover from where they are now. Even just consider international relations - Trump has irreparably damaged America’s relationship with Canada. I seriously doubt Canada will ever fully trust the USA again. A stark contrast to 10 years ago when we had one of the strongest allied relationships on the planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall. but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests.. probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china. permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago It will again, but it will take decades and huge changes on the part of the USA permalink fedilink source parent [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children) Old people die. Young people take over. What does canadas youth think of americas youth? Those are the only opinions that matter, ultimately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago You're not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter. I'm pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago This is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 point 3 months ago Oh to be young and naive. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago As long as I can keep visiting Messorem Brewing in Montreal. I'm from a quality blue state and spend a lot of $$ on beer. permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -22 points 3 months ago (11 children) Yeah I don't know why we ever pretended that exists, Canada is a nation whose entire cultural identity is resentment at being mistaken for American, and some of them speak even snootier French than the French do. We're not friends, we've never been friends, it's probably healthy to stop pretending we're friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago* (8 children) It really doesn’t sound like you know much about Canada or Canadians. Very much a “shit Americans say” comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago (7 children) You haven't banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago You know what? I like Canadians even more now. Come visit NZ whenever you like permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Gutter French is snootier? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago I doubt anyone fully trusted the USA to begin with. Its not like betraying deals and acting against friends is a sudden new development afterall. but I do think, if we can start to cut the cancer out of the country, you would find a lot of the world welcoming the US back, if for nothing else than their own personal interests.. probably mostly as a geopolitical counterweight to china. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago It will again, but it will take decades and huge changes on the part of the USA permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago* (3 children) Old people die. Young people take over. What does canadas youth think of americas youth? Those are the only opinions that matter, ultimately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago You're not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter. I'm pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago This is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 point 3 months ago Oh to be young and naive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago You're not wrong, but your timescale is. What does the next generation of not yet born folks think about the next generation of not yet born folks will ultimately matter. I'm pretty firmly convinced the reason it took this long for the fascist takeover and probably WWIII is because it took about this long, 70-80ish years, for the living memory of WWII to, uh, stop living. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago This is definitely one of the dumbest things I've read today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 point 3 months ago Oh to be young and naive. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago As long as I can keep visiting Messorem Brewing in Montreal. I'm from a quality blue state and spend a lot of $$ on beer. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -22 points 3 months ago (11 children) Yeah I don't know why we ever pretended that exists, Canada is a nation whose entire cultural identity is resentment at being mistaken for American, and some of them speak even snootier French than the French do. We're not friends, we've never been friends, it's probably healthy to stop pretending we're friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago* (8 children) It really doesn’t sound like you know much about Canada or Canadians. Very much a “shit Americans say” comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago (7 children) You haven't banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent [–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago You know what? I like Canadians even more now. Come visit NZ whenever you like permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Gutter French is snootier? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lookitsjustin@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago* (8 children) It really doesn’t sound like you know much about Canada or Canadians. Very much a “shit Americans say” comment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago (7 children) You haven't banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -17 points 3 months ago (7 children) You haven't banned Chinese cars. I know enough to want to mine the 49th parallel like the Korean penninsula. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago (6 children) You must own shares in Flock. Putting cameras in every Uber and Lyft. The usa is now the premier surveillance state, blowing past China at warp speed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Stop feeding the trolls permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -8 points 3 months ago (4 children) I've seen enough shit here on Lemmy from Canadians saying "we aren't friends" so...I agree. We aren't. I wouldn't piss on Canada if it was on fire. Which it probably is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (3 children) dont care about your feelings on Canada, i responded to your comment about china cars. you already have it worse than chinese and you dont even know it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's a Chinese product. You're going to get cancer from sitting in it. It'll be full of lead and asbestos just like their baby food. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago so american products (especially food) dont have pfas, roundup, mercury and growth hormones? And chicken isnt washed in chlorine? Give your head a shake or better yet, increase your antipsychotic med dosage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Username checks out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 months ago You know what? I like Canadians even more now. Come visit NZ whenever you like permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Gutter French is snootier? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shirasho@feddit.online 77 points 3 months ago (5 children) I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage. We need a complete change in trajectory to recover, and left unchecked the GOP and DNC will burn the country to the ground before they let that happen. Nothing short of a French medieval device will do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago We’re not that right leaning, our political system gives too much power to empty land that happens to have a few right wing nuts living there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago I will add, even once US recovers from this, people killed by ICE aren't coming back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage. I don't believe its impossible. Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Napster153@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago It's the Fall of Rome. Sooner or later, there'll be military crisis as charismatic leaders tear the nation apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago We’re not that right leaning, our political system gives too much power to empty land that happens to have a few right wing nuts living there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago I will add, even once US recovers from this, people killed by ICE aren't coming back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) I hate to sound defeatist, but the US will never recover in its current form. The US political system is too right-leaning, and the right wing propaganda machine and cuts to education have done irreparable damage. I don't believe its impossible. Its very improbable, but the sudden rise of democratic socialists and massive support thats forming around them does open up possibilities, if enough of them get elected to power, they could start to right the ship. Get even more into offices, and they could start undoing bullshit and passing fresh new laws, for the people, not the powerful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago I don’t believe the end of our current political system means we all die, it hopefully means the shitheads in charge face consequences and we get a system in place that doesn’t let this happen again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago It's the Fall of Rome. Sooner or later, there'll be military crisis as charismatic leaders tear the nation apart. permalink fedilink source parent