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[–] 48 points 3 months ago (16 children)

If I was a teen in school today, I'd make sure to write everything in a system with automatic save and version control. I can see being constantly accused of using an LLM as a major problem.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    I'm an educator, and we have the revision history extenstion in Google doc that allows us to see the document as it was written.

    If large blocks of text suddenly appear, it indicates plagiarism.

    Knowing your students and their lexicon, it's unnecessary for most of us to use it though.

    Most of the students that try to sneak AI struggle with writing to begin with, which makes it remarkably obvious when they try to pass off something that is not theirs.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    If large blocks of text suddenly appear, it indicates plagiarism.

    It doesn't account for students who write stuff on another editor amd copy the stuff over, it's for sure a smaller number of people but i hope you recognize who may who wouldn't do it

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    There was a website i used in college (2010s) called "Written? Kitten!". Every 100 words of writing in the text box on the left side of the screen would earn a new picture of a kitten on the right side of the screen. Hand to god that website saved my ADHD ass, I wrote a 10 page paper in 3 hours, 100 words/1 kitten/1 dopamine hit at a time. If a teacher had ever looked at my edit history, it would probably look very odd because it would be in 100 and 200 word block chunks for the whole thing.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    innocent until proven guilty, I'd say, it's on them to prove you did use AI

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Wouldn't that be nice. I haven't been in school for a long time but I do remember being accused of plagiarism and/or cheating by a few petty teachers that could not believe that someone like me actually had a brain. Ultimately, in almost every case, it was up to me to prove that it was my work.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Um maybe we should challenge this guilty until proven innocent framework then?

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I work in higher ed. I would say it's "innocent until a professor who doesn't understand what he's doing runs it through his own ChatGPT and asks if it's AI written, and then that's going to be gospel." So yeah we have software that tracks everything students write to avoid it.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't the professor making the problem worse by feeding the students' original works to the LLM to ingest? What's stopping the LLM from using the original works to generate (plagiarize) a very similar work for someone else?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    In higher education, some schools have a chain of escalation, and usually things usually don't get to the point of actually doing a "trial" (although that does happen some times)

    • students are innocent until the instructor suspects something
    • instructors can implement the penalty that they see as appropriate, but the student can appeal to a higher authority if they think it is not appropriate (department, dean, etc)

    Even in civil justice systems, guilty until proven innocent doesn't mean that someone faces no restrictions until guilt can be proven. When two parties disagree, they will try to solve it themselves while the court remains an option if that doesn't work out.

    Our school actually publishes summaries of the incidents, if anyone is curious what students are getting up to these days: https://universitycounsel.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/media-uploads/files/SD%202024-2025.pdf

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