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China Is Abusing AI. Chatbots are deftly disseminating Beijing’s talking points. (www.theatlantic.com)
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[–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well, they're not offering you cheap compute because they have a big heart or because they like you soo much on a personal level. They also follow some goal. And you're probably contributing towards it.

But it's super difficult to judge because the AI industry is so convoluted and ridiculous. I also don't see a good way to deal with it. Pick your poison. Best course of action is probably not to do poison at all... But you probably know as much. And the enemy of your enemy isn't always your friend.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Oh, of course. I mean, it's an AI race, the more users you have, the better.

    But you are right that I have not considered that it could be contributing to the attrocities China is doing domestically, especially with how is their social credit thing going (if that's still a thing, haven't really checked on it for decade at this point), adding a good AI to the mix is dreadful to think about.

    Soo, yeah. From a strictly selfish point of view, it's probably better to send your personal data to china, assuming you're not likely to visit. That is assuming they are not selling their data to the US brokers, but it feels unlikely they'd be allowed to. The cost, however, is you're helping with enabling a regime with keeping their citizens in line.

    On the other hand, US providers are the same, the regime just didn't have a headstart to have the oppression infrastructure already in place. So, yeah. The only winning move is not to play (or just have a local model).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    I somehow doubt that's their goal. While a surveillance dystopia needs some image recognition and advanced algorithms and machine learning, I don't think it needs chatbots and large language models for programming nearly as much as they implement. It's probably part of the equation. But I don't think that's anywhere close to the reason why they do what they do. There's probably way more to it if you ask me.

    And we're about to find out about the local models... Mind as of today, those are mostly designed by big tech companies or Chinese "startups" as well. Again not necessarily driven by benevolence.

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