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Learning on the job (lemmy.world)
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[–] 0 points 1 year ago (15 children)

For me it's mostly privacy concerns. Now the fucking shop and all their 111 marketing partners know my email and where I live.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Why? At least here the self checkout gets exactly the same info from me as the regular one

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You mean you can pay with cash? The one I've seen is with making an account with email and online payment, or worse, an app that can extract all sorts of info.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I just tap my card

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Well then they know your name at the very least and can use and sell your shopping data.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    But that's not at all specific to self checkouts

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago
    1. Self checkout rarely allow you to pay with cash. 2) Self checkout can be made easier faster by scanning with a phone app

    That leads to different complications and outcomes. See OP complaining about slow self checkout. The more self checkout, the less cash transactions and the less privacy.

    A fully cashless society would make people more vulnerable. Not just privacy, but maybe some bureaucratic snafu that doesn't allow you a residence, maybe your ID card expired, and no banking account. If you're not in the system, you can't even buy food. Or if your account is in the red and blocked.

    Ideally we should have have fully anonymous cash cards. But regulation is being pushed in some countries to limit them, or make you give ID. Or they take 5% "tax" on the revenue. And a phone app is easier to use.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, but all you need to do is wear a small tinfoil hat, that protects you from this.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    fucking shop and all their 111 marketing partners know my email and where I live.

    What?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What the fuck? Do people not understand the concept of privacy? Have you ever read one of those cookie agreements? This is exactly the same!

    If you pay via card or app or account they have your name and identity. We KNOW they use or sell that information from countless examples. That information is bought and aggregated by other companies, and the NSA owns or backdoors those companies, or the cops or ICE can buy that information without a warrant.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you pay via card or app or account they have your name and identity.

    App/account - yes. Card - no.

    That information is bought and aggregated by other companies, and the NSA owns or backdoors those companies, or the cops or ICE can buy that information without a warrant.

    I realise USA is quickly descending into totalitarianism but what you are presenting is a tinfoil hat level of madness.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    In what reality do you live in lol? This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is literally the business model of "data collection companies". European privacy laws and the cookie disclaimer BS just showed us what is already happening.

    If you don't think all this data isn't being collated and used then you don't understand the nature of neoliberal capitalism and politics. Mock me all you want, but it seems they've already won when basic privacy is now a fringe idea.

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