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Nearly 700 U.S. service members have been wounded by drone and missile attacks on occupation bases (apnews.com)
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[–] 0 points 3 months ago* (40 children)

The Los Angeles D line is about to get a new western terminus at the VA hospital. The day it opens I'm gonna go there (on the D train) and make fun of the young guys until one tries to punch me with an arm he doesn't have anymore.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (32 children)

    I have 0 sympathy for the US Armed Forces, and a small part of me can't help but feel that people that volunteer for the imperial war machine deserve what they get. But please remember that these are human beings, and all humans deserve dignity. When you forget that, you aren't really better than the worst of them.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    They signed up to fight trump wars. They knew what they were getting into.

    I'm not going to fuck with the old guys. When you can't tell the difference between an asshole and a monster, you're not really any different than the worst of them, shitlib.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Teenagers signed up with adults telling them it was honorable.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Yeah, that's why I'm not going after the old guys. I'm going after the ones who haven't adjusted to not having the arm they try to punch me with. Those fuckers got no excuse.

    I remember being a teenager. I clocked that the bush admincs wars weren't honorable. I was smarter than most, but this is fucking trump.

    Edit: also, they're actively recruiting Nazis right now, and if you want to kill to get out of poverty but won't kill a billionaire at home, you're probably a Nazi.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (16 children)

    Remember that those are helping killing innocent civilians. The iranians deserve dignity, their killers deserve none. The more casualities the usa get inflicted thr more innocent iranians lives will be saved

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (8 children)

    The irgc is also pretty bad. I wouldn't say they're better than the Americans, but the irgc isn't blowing up schools and fighting on side with zios.

    The Americans knew what they were signing up for; contracts aren't that long.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    The usa tried to create a failed state, a failed state kill millions and they already killed millions from vietnam to afghanistan to iraq, to syria, to libya so yeah the usa is a lot worse than the irgc.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    I'm not going to pretend any of the militaries here are the good guys, I'm just here to mock the crippled bitches from one who come back missing limbs and make them cry or crave a 9mm sandwich.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Everything is in context. The context we are talking about is the war of aggression on iran so in that context the Iranian army is the good side and the usa army the bad side. It similar to how the allies was the good guy in the world war 2 and the axis the bad guys despite the allies having colonies and killing resistance in the colonized countries

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No. The irgc (dunno about their regular army) are the shitty assholes who were killing their own civilians for water riots. That's not good guys. Not under any conditions.

    Then the Americans decided that was their job, and also blew up all the desalination plants, and also school children. There are no good guys here. Just pieces of absolute subhuman shit killing each other and innocent people who are so fucked.

    I'm here to mock the pieces of shit who end up in my city when they come back missing pieces.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    The irony of your comment is that by dehumanising them you are showing the exact same impulse that drives wars of aggression.

    The moment you decide certain human beings are completely stripped of dignity and fair game for abuse, you are using the exact same psychological justification that warmongers use.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    “Fascists use hammers to build houses, so if you use hammers to build houses then you’re a fascist!”

    See also, “Hitler was a vegetarian, so all vegetarians are Hitler!”

    Learn to apply context and intentions.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Nice strawman you got there.

    The main difference is that dehumanisation is the very core of fascism. The moment you defend human dignity is conditional you accept their main premise.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    No, authoritarianism is the core of fascism. Anyone attempting to force their will onto others by force can fuck themselves to death, they don’t deserve the considerations they actively refuse to others, I will not treat them as people, I did not strip that from them, they actively gave up their humanity. Stop blaming others for that behavior, blame the fucking perpetrators.

    Your faux humanitarianism rhetoric is just the propaganda of pacifism, which is something these specific fucking nazis specifically added to the social programming. You are delivering a rhetoric made by these fucks to protect these fucks from you. Wake up. I’m not the one arguing a straw man.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    when you volunteer for this, you’re either already a victim or a sociopath piece of shit. the former gets help getting out and recovering. the latter gets to be reminded they are a nazi forever.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    The US political and economic system is also designed to entrap people in the military.

    Cant afford a education. Military will pay for it.

    Can't afford a place to live. Military will provide.

    Unable to escape violence and gangs, military.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I would rather struggle in life then kill

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    For some, its death they are escaping. Either from crime, or economic depression. Also only 1 in 10 military personel become a "shooter" the majority go into logistics, technical or administrative roles.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    Anybody who participate in a war of agression deserve to be targetted from logistic to technical to administrative personels.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Under law, they are considered combatants, so I am not sure what your point is.

    Most people in the Military of either side of a conflict are not there by choice, but by limited options and circumstances.

    If they had the option of joining a WPA style public works program instead, they would.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    I don't care about excuses. Limited options and circonstances do not the change the fact they either went to kill or assist the killers in killing the iranians civilians so yes every injured or dead soldiers man more chance to save iranians civlians. You would never said this bullshit if it was about an isis terrorist getting killed or injured

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    To the contrary. I have stated many times that fighters are also compelled by circumstance to join extremist movements in Yemen, Palastine, Afganistan, Iraq, Syria etc to commit or support committing of war crimes.

    If you are a young orphan boy in Sudan, you basically have 2 choices to survive. Become an immigrant in another country or join the life of violence and become a pirate, gang member or religious extremist.

    Its the plight of the downtrodden in all countries with significant wealth inequality. So long a power is concentrated in Presidents, Mullahs, Priests, dictators and oligarchs, they will get the downtrodden to commit crimes on their behalf.

    Very few conflicts are just and even fewer remain so after enough time.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I am talking about isis. All rhe group you mention are product of colonization and occupation. Sudan is a civil war yes they are tuely have no choice. Don't compare that with american soldiers

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Many of them are brainwashed by parents and are ignorant of world affairs. The recruiters get to them when they are 17. Many regret it later, and that's why the suicide rates in the military are high. Teenagers make incredibly poor decisions. I get what you're saying, but have some compassion. The enemy are the folks who own media and profit from it, not the ignorant masses.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    17? Many schools have recruiters walking the halls long before that. Plenty of these kids were getting talked up in the hallway at 15 and had recruiters calling their cellphones unprovoked or stalking them to their homes using personal information they got from the schools.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Also, Transformers and COD games are hitting eyeballs as soon as kids are old enough to watch TV unsupervised. Beer commercials, certain coffee establishments, etc etc. The wrong unsupervised media environment readily delivers poor kids to the armed forces as an aspirational goal.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    tends to be the most accessible way out of that poor small-town hellscape so common across america too.

    part of me wonders if one of the main reasons we dont have universal healthcare/education is it would effectively crater DoD's ability to recruit anyone. already struggle to hit their quota as is...

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