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US gives money to Israel which then funds AIPAC who then funds corporations who take money from citizens? Is that right? (discuss.online)
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[–] 34 points 3 months ago (10 children)

It's the question that's weird actually. Does anyone ever ask if Australia has a right to exist? Does anyone ask if America has a right to exist? It's called sowing doubt, and it's always in this context and it's always the same goal in this current media ecosystem. Abdul is just demonstrating the nature of the question which you simply don't see people do, either becuase media outlets coach them not to, or they're caught off guard by the implicit gaslighting. If you and I had a public conversation and I, unprovoked, kept asking you if I have a right to live, people watching might start to think you don't think I do regardless of how you answer despite how absurd the question is to ask in what we consider civilized society.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    If you and I had a public conversation and I, unprovoked, kept asking you if I have a right to live, people watching might start to think you don't think I do regardless of how you answer despite how absurd the question is to ask in what we consider civilized society.

    This is SUCH a good simile. Bravo! I'm gonna use that the next time someone mentions Israel's "RiGhT tO eXiSt".

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It’s not a weird question. There’s no other group claiming territory in Australia. Nor are there any real territorial disputes or territories claiming independence from the United States.

    Israel and Palestine have an active disagreement about who owns what territory, and both fundamentally disagree on the other even existing at all. It’s also an extremely relevant topic right now, with Israel being a long time diplomatic and military ally of the United States.

    It would be like asking a candidate if Taiwan has the right to exist, which is also very relevant.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    People would answer "yes of course, why do you ask such a weird question". He didnt answer like this for a reason.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    He is a person so, you're wrong. Also not everyone agrees with your bias, especially when you include the appropriate context: "Does Israel have a right to exist as a state that inflicts collective violence and murder on unprecedented scales against a large segment of their population based on ideology and skin tone without consequence?". Does Isreal have a right to exist? As much as any other state, and NO state has a right to exist if that existence is centered on violent expansionism, bigotry and genocide. This is akin to how nobody asks if Israel is anti-Islamic, we're being fed carefully curated narratives to avoid the follow-up, and to that effect I'll ask you: Does Palestine have a right to exist as an independent state and defend itself against foreing aggression? If not, why?

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