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[–] -3 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Student cheating. If they can get away with it and somehow translate that into getting a job, good for them, if companies use degrees as a lazy way of filtering applications they deserve to get ripped off. Taking grades seriously like their integrity has moral weight is for people who have been severely manipulated.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    I can't agree. Cheating is inherently a lack of honor and cutting corners. I don't want a doctor that I can't trust and who takes the easiest possible route in my treatment. That's already bad enough as it is, just saying "it'll get better probably, let me know if not. That'll be 5000 dollars". Plus you have to actually know stuff to grt certain jobs. School is not a useless ritualistic song and dance.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Eh I have mixed feelings, in some fields yes I 100% agree I’d say MOST fields I fully agree but there are fields where this would get people hurt or killed, medicine, architecture, civil engineering etc. where I do think cheating can have very serious consequences.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I do also think that exams are often a pretty bad way of checking how well a concept is understood and grades often show how well certain things are memorized instead.

    I should probably do some more research before I say anything more about this though as that impression is mostly anecdotal.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    That is how exams usually are though for classes like physics, chemistry, and physics where memorization won't save you with it being solving problems to arrive to the correct solution.

    Something like anatomy is pure memorization so being memorization is no issue, since it is just learning names of musicles, nerves, and bones. And when it comes to classes like physiology it builds on knowing what you knew from anatomy, but being tested on how well you can actually explain the mechanisms of what is going on within the body.

    I guess it depends on the subject if an exam is just memorization based or not and leaves students knowing nothing.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    I guess that's fair, but most of the complaining about this I see online is for stuff like people not writing their own essays. I also think the more pressing issue that's getting people killed in those cases are artificial barriers to access, like if the barriers to practicing medicine were drastically reduced then at least people would be able to get treatment to begin with, and it's not like having gotten good grades by successfully cramming for exams guarantees professional competence.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    But as a society we should have formal qualifications to make it easy to verify knowledge and streamline basic competency. The idea behind a degree is good the implantation of dogshit degrees being handed out to everyone is the issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    It's a broader topic, but I disagree, the strategy of outsourcing trust to centralized institutions this way is fundamentally a bad one, and naturally becomes more dysfunctional the more it is used. People need to exercise more of their own judgment, and rely more on the judgment of people they know personally. It's just too much weight for one structure to bear.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Outsourcing trust is a core part of society. We should be able to rely on parts of society. Otherwise we have everyone trying to do their own thing and its ineffective and a waste of time and effort.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Of course some form of coordination is useful, but no single metric can handle that much pressure. It should be obvious by now that our society is relying too heavily on these credentials, and that they have become less useful to everyone because of that.

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