▲ 246 ▼ Universities drop AI detection tools over fears about accuracy: Some institutions are overhauling assessment and trying to move away from the emphasis on surveillance (www.ft.com) submitted 3 months ago by eicker@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago (6 children) remember these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_book_exam permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Eq0@literature.cafe 18 points 3 months ago (5 children) Yeah, it’s a made up problem. In my experience, generated by two factors: universities wanting to increase the number of tests for each subject, and wanting students to be experienced with using computers. Thus many tests become at home, with the computer, where cheating is soooooo easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 9 points 3 months ago (4 children) Yeah, cheating with electronics is nothing new. Laptop and phones and internet has existed long before AI, and people could get outside help through messages to have people feed them answers. Yet, schools dealt with it by either doing in class paper and pencil exams, or digital in class exams on locked down computers with no internet access and no desktop access with software like examsoft. I've had even math teachers ban graphing calculators or provide use of in class graphing calculators well aware of notes that could be typed into them and programs made to solve answers before hand. So all these current issues seem to be the result of either schools moving to take home, or letting people use personal electronics with full internet and file access during exams. Its like teachers lost the ability to say no to what is and isn't allowed during exams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) In class graphing calculators would be good. Our teachers instead manually wiped our ti-83+ before the exam. Fortunately for us, we had a program that emulated the system menus, so the teacher could think they were resetting it without actually doing it. Some people used it to cheat but most of us just didn't want to lose all our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I think archiving the programs would lead to surviving a reset. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 18 points 3 months ago (5 children) Yeah, it’s a made up problem. In my experience, generated by two factors: universities wanting to increase the number of tests for each subject, and wanting students to be experienced with using computers. Thus many tests become at home, with the computer, where cheating is soooooo easy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 9 points 3 months ago (4 children) Yeah, cheating with electronics is nothing new. Laptop and phones and internet has existed long before AI, and people could get outside help through messages to have people feed them answers. Yet, schools dealt with it by either doing in class paper and pencil exams, or digital in class exams on locked down computers with no internet access and no desktop access with software like examsoft. I've had even math teachers ban graphing calculators or provide use of in class graphing calculators well aware of notes that could be typed into them and programs made to solve answers before hand. So all these current issues seem to be the result of either schools moving to take home, or letting people use personal electronics with full internet and file access during exams. Its like teachers lost the ability to say no to what is and isn't allowed during exams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) In class graphing calculators would be good. Our teachers instead manually wiped our ti-83+ before the exam. Fortunately for us, we had a program that emulated the system menus, so the teacher could think they were resetting it without actually doing it. Some people used it to cheat but most of us just didn't want to lose all our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I think archiving the programs would lead to surviving a reset. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 9 points 3 months ago (4 children) Yeah, cheating with electronics is nothing new. Laptop and phones and internet has existed long before AI, and people could get outside help through messages to have people feed them answers. Yet, schools dealt with it by either doing in class paper and pencil exams, or digital in class exams on locked down computers with no internet access and no desktop access with software like examsoft. I've had even math teachers ban graphing calculators or provide use of in class graphing calculators well aware of notes that could be typed into them and programs made to solve answers before hand. So all these current issues seem to be the result of either schools moving to take home, or letting people use personal electronics with full internet and file access during exams. Its like teachers lost the ability to say no to what is and isn't allowed during exams. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) In class graphing calculators would be good. Our teachers instead manually wiped our ti-83+ before the exam. Fortunately for us, we had a program that emulated the system menus, so the teacher could think they were resetting it without actually doing it. Some people used it to cheat but most of us just didn't want to lose all our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I think archiving the programs would lead to surviving a reset. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (3 children) In class graphing calculators would be good. Our teachers instead manually wiped our ti-83+ before the exam. Fortunately for us, we had a program that emulated the system menus, so the teacher could think they were resetting it without actually doing it. Some people used it to cheat but most of us just didn't want to lose all our games. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I think archiving the programs would lead to surviving a reset. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) Yeah, I think archiving the programs would lead to surviving a reset. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child) They didn't. There was a type of reset that restores the calculator to factory settings iirc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 2 points 3 months ago Looks like that type was 'All Memory' https://education.ti.com/en/customer-support/knowledge-base/ti-83-84-plus-family/product-usage/34871 permalink fedilink source parent