12
Does Albanese's idea for more Australian oil supplies stack up? (www.sbs.com.au)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/australianpolitics@aussie.zone
8 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

The federal government will spend $4 million on a study to see if it can build a new oil refinery in Western Australia, which could be the nation's first such new facility in six decades.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

The facility can be run on a skeleton crew normally, providing a reliable base-load volume while having the ability to ramp up refining volumes as circumstances require.

But then what's the point of the fuel supplies and secondly why aren't the businesses themselves keeping their own stock piles?

Why should I, humble citizen, fully kitted out house with Solar+Battery+Heat Pump+EV have to subsidise people and companies who refuse to electrify and instead rely on recycled dinosaur bones?

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I too have Solar & Battery, with an EV landing in October. I believe we should electrify as much of our infrastructure using green energy as possible. But I’m also old and wise enough to know that not everything can be.

    We wouldn’t be doing this to be “subsidising” individual ICE use, but rather to ensure that industries that can’t readily electrify - such as farms still having diesel for their tractors, harvesters, combines to keep growing our food; for commercial trucks to be able to transport these critical goods across our great wide nation; to keep planes in the air, connecting us to the rest of the world; for national security, ensuring that when hostilities escalate overseas, we will be able to keep the wheels turning.

    When times are plentiful, we can run these operations at a minimal loss and enable us to ramp up production profitably from private parties when times get tough - while ensuring that critical and emergency services have the necessary fuel to operate.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    I too have Solar & Battery, with an EV landing in October.

    Good man 💪

    We wouldn’t be doing this to be “subsidising” individual ICE use, but rather to ensure that industries that can’t readily electrify - such as farms still having diesel for their tractors, harvesters, combines to keep growing our food; for commercial trucks to be able to transport these critical goods across our great wide nation; to keep planes in the air, connecting us to the rest of the world; for national security, ensuring that when hostilities escalate overseas, we will be able to keep the wheels turning.

    Yeah I'm saying if we have 12 months worth of fuel reserves for these purposes since the overwhelming majority of cars are EV's what's the point of having our own refining? it's just pouring money down the drain waiting for an exceptional black swan that will likely never come

    Also all of those things, from tractors, harvesters, combines etc should be moving towards electric, planes are moving towards Sustainable Aviation Fuel

    tbh if the only people still relying on oil in 10-20 years time is planes and some old farm equipment it would surprise me if 90 days of fuel reserves wasn't enough anyway

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent