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[+] Krusty -73 points 3 months ago (27 children) Have you ever cooked on induction? It sucks. And if your pans aren't iron... It simply doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 59 points 3 months ago* I only cook on induction, its great, my pans are both cast iron. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 58 points 3 months ago Ferromagnetic. Not necessarily iron. Plenty of alloys and even enameled pots work just fine. If a magnet sticks, it'll heat up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 37 points 3 months ago (3 children) How does it suck? I’ve lived in several places with induction stoves, and have found them to be as responsive as gas if not more so. Are you perchance mistaking old-fashioned electrical hobs (the ones with the solid metal coil that eventually glows red) for induction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] toofpic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) Probably. Because for oldschool electric stove - you have to really know your stove and still risk burning everything. With induction, I know that I usually fry on 6.5, and if I want violent crispy frying, it's 7.5-8 for a minute. That's all the knowledge I need. And also I can boil water faster than with an electric kettle - 40 seconds and I can throw pasta in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 3 months ago And that fast boiling also means must less wasted energy. Less heat transfer to the room, requiring your home cooling system to work more to cool it back down. Overall much more efficient across the board. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago My guess is Krusty tried a cheap induction hotplate, and those do have some issues.Most notable for me is that the element is smaller than the actual cooktop/burner-indicator. If I use a 11"/25 cm skillet, with 8"/20cm base, there's a cold ring around the edge and a cold spot in the center. You can get around that by constantly moving the pan around the burner, but that's annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 29 points 3 months ago (2 children) Who wrote this? Big aluminum? So many pans work on induction. We upgraded 3 years ago and will never go back, it's better in every way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who wrote this? Big induction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago Think that's called a transformer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 months ago (7 children) I have, for 10+ years. And I’ll take it over gas ANY day of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (6 children) Induction always reminds me of this apartment I had with this the regular old stove with coils exposed but they really sucked there was like two settings to these things. They didn't work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago that is not an induction stove, nor are coil stoves that bad, you just had a particularly shit one permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sounds like you've never used induction lol. You're literally describing the problems with convection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty -11 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago Aren't you a peach permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago there was like two settings to these things. They didn’t work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. Induction cooking is amazing because it has far more precise temperature control to gas. It's odd that you associate it with the opposite experience, when one of the best features of an induction heater is being able to set the exact temperature you want. I make soap and sweets at home, and posted this list the last time the gas vs induction thing game up: Setting it to exactly 40C means you can melt chocolate reliably, without the hassle of a bain marie At 60C you can combine cetostearyl alcohol and vegetable oil for moisturizer without boiling off your glycerine At 80C you can cook soap to the trace point you want without overcooking it and making it lumpy At 100C you can evaporate moisture and reduce a sauce with minimal effect on other ingredients At 100-160C you can cook a sugar syrup to a precisely desired level of concentration (as the boiling point goes up as the concentration increases) for making different types of candy Only the most specialized, professional gas stoves let you set a specific temperature rather than a knob that goes from "medium" to "high". Even the most basic $50 induction plates have that feature. The only thing you can do on gas that you can't do on induction is using the flame flambee alcohol, and you can just use a lighter or kitchen torch for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago they turned red hot to maximum heat Those weren't induction as far as i know, induction isn't supposed to get red hot permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* Being reminded of something doesn't make the comparison accurate. My induction range is awesome and nothing like that. It's a completely different technology than coil stoves. I've used gas professionally, I've used coils, I've used glasstop. Induction is the best by a wide margin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] alavar@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have only induction stoves for 15 years now and the only thing that "sucks" is a) old electric that just required time to get used to b) touch control panel instead of buttons/knobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago There are a few models with physical knobs. This is the way with induction. Otherwise it's chaos when the pot of water boiling pasta overboils, and you can't fucking turn it down! permalink fedilink source parent [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (7 children) Even if what you were saying is true you know that induction isn’t the only kind of electric range right? Sealed radiant cooktops are also more efficient and healthier than gas ranges and usually cheaper too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -5 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago you’ve just ‘passed the buck’ of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient than burning the gas for electricity to use for cooking, as you need to heat a boiler, spin a turbine, generate electric, send to your home … That’s inefficient. This is not true - industrial turbines burn more efficiently and form less pollutants than small burners which don't have the same quality control. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) you've just 'passed the buck' of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Expecting everyone to individually make choices that benefit the long-term, instead of consolidating resources to solve for large groups together using economies of scale, is exactly how the fossil fuel industry has been successful for generations at ensuring no progress is made. It's a divide-and-conquer approach. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient It absolutely isn't if you are comparing a gas stove vs an induction one. You are losing a huge amount of the heat around the pan and warming your room with gas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -2 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who's "they"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 3 months ago Send some papers, thx permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. Exactly, what would be the problem making an electric range be powered by solar power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 59 points 3 months ago* I only cook on induction, its great, my pans are both cast iron. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 58 points 3 months ago Ferromagnetic. Not necessarily iron. Plenty of alloys and even enameled pots work just fine. If a magnet sticks, it'll heat up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 37 points 3 months ago (3 children) How does it suck? I’ve lived in several places with induction stoves, and have found them to be as responsive as gas if not more so. Are you perchance mistaking old-fashioned electrical hobs (the ones with the solid metal coil that eventually glows red) for induction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] toofpic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) Probably. Because for oldschool electric stove - you have to really know your stove and still risk burning everything. With induction, I know that I usually fry on 6.5, and if I want violent crispy frying, it's 7.5-8 for a minute. That's all the knowledge I need. And also I can boil water faster than with an electric kettle - 40 seconds and I can throw pasta in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 3 months ago And that fast boiling also means must less wasted energy. Less heat transfer to the room, requiring your home cooling system to work more to cool it back down. Overall much more efficient across the board. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago My guess is Krusty tried a cheap induction hotplate, and those do have some issues.Most notable for me is that the element is smaller than the actual cooktop/burner-indicator. If I use a 11"/25 cm skillet, with 8"/20cm base, there's a cold ring around the edge and a cold spot in the center. You can get around that by constantly moving the pan around the burner, but that's annoying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child) Probably. Because for oldschool electric stove - you have to really know your stove and still risk burning everything. With induction, I know that I usually fry on 6.5, and if I want violent crispy frying, it's 7.5-8 for a minute. That's all the knowledge I need. And also I can boil water faster than with an electric kettle - 40 seconds and I can throw pasta in permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 3 months ago And that fast boiling also means must less wasted energy. Less heat transfer to the room, requiring your home cooling system to work more to cool it back down. Overall much more efficient across the board. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 3 months ago And that fast boiling also means must less wasted energy. Less heat transfer to the room, requiring your home cooling system to work more to cool it back down. Overall much more efficient across the board. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago My guess is Krusty tried a cheap induction hotplate, and those do have some issues.Most notable for me is that the element is smaller than the actual cooktop/burner-indicator. If I use a 11"/25 cm skillet, with 8"/20cm base, there's a cold ring around the edge and a cold spot in the center. You can get around that by constantly moving the pan around the burner, but that's annoying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 29 points 3 months ago (2 children) Who wrote this? Big aluminum? So many pans work on induction. We upgraded 3 years ago and will never go back, it's better in every way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who wrote this? Big induction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago Think that's called a transformer. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who wrote this? Big induction? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago Think that's called a transformer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago Think that's called a transformer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OS2Warp@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 months ago (7 children) I have, for 10+ years. And I’ll take it over gas ANY day of the week permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (6 children) Induction always reminds me of this apartment I had with this the regular old stove with coils exposed but they really sucked there was like two settings to these things. They didn't work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago that is not an induction stove, nor are coil stoves that bad, you just had a particularly shit one permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sounds like you've never used induction lol. You're literally describing the problems with convection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty -11 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago Aren't you a peach permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago there was like two settings to these things. They didn’t work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. Induction cooking is amazing because it has far more precise temperature control to gas. It's odd that you associate it with the opposite experience, when one of the best features of an induction heater is being able to set the exact temperature you want. I make soap and sweets at home, and posted this list the last time the gas vs induction thing game up: Setting it to exactly 40C means you can melt chocolate reliably, without the hassle of a bain marie At 60C you can combine cetostearyl alcohol and vegetable oil for moisturizer without boiling off your glycerine At 80C you can cook soap to the trace point you want without overcooking it and making it lumpy At 100C you can evaporate moisture and reduce a sauce with minimal effect on other ingredients At 100-160C you can cook a sugar syrup to a precisely desired level of concentration (as the boiling point goes up as the concentration increases) for making different types of candy Only the most specialized, professional gas stoves let you set a specific temperature rather than a knob that goes from "medium" to "high". Even the most basic $50 induction plates have that feature. The only thing you can do on gas that you can't do on induction is using the flame flambee alcohol, and you can just use a lighter or kitchen torch for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago they turned red hot to maximum heat Those weren't induction as far as i know, induction isn't supposed to get red hot permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* Being reminded of something doesn't make the comparison accurate. My induction range is awesome and nothing like that. It's a completely different technology than coil stoves. I've used gas professionally, I've used coils, I've used glasstop. Induction is the best by a wide margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Krusty -16 points 3 months ago (6 children) Induction always reminds me of this apartment I had with this the regular old stove with coils exposed but they really sucked there was like two settings to these things. They didn't work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago that is not an induction stove, nor are coil stoves that bad, you just had a particularly shit one permalink fedilink source parent [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sounds like you've never used induction lol. You're literally describing the problems with convection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty -11 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago Aren't you a peach permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago there was like two settings to these things. They didn’t work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. Induction cooking is amazing because it has far more precise temperature control to gas. It's odd that you associate it with the opposite experience, when one of the best features of an induction heater is being able to set the exact temperature you want. I make soap and sweets at home, and posted this list the last time the gas vs induction thing game up: Setting it to exactly 40C means you can melt chocolate reliably, without the hassle of a bain marie At 60C you can combine cetostearyl alcohol and vegetable oil for moisturizer without boiling off your glycerine At 80C you can cook soap to the trace point you want without overcooking it and making it lumpy At 100C you can evaporate moisture and reduce a sauce with minimal effect on other ingredients At 100-160C you can cook a sugar syrup to a precisely desired level of concentration (as the boiling point goes up as the concentration increases) for making different types of candy Only the most specialized, professional gas stoves let you set a specific temperature rather than a knob that goes from "medium" to "high". Even the most basic $50 induction plates have that feature. The only thing you can do on gas that you can't do on induction is using the flame flambee alcohol, and you can just use a lighter or kitchen torch for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago they turned red hot to maximum heat Those weren't induction as far as i know, induction isn't supposed to get red hot permalink fedilink source parent [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* Being reminded of something doesn't make the comparison accurate. My induction range is awesome and nothing like that. It's a completely different technology than coil stoves. I've used gas professionally, I've used coils, I've used glasstop. Induction is the best by a wide margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bequirtle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago that is not an induction stove, nor are coil stoves that bad, you just had a particularly shit one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Sounds like you've never used induction lol. You're literally describing the problems with convection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty -11 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago Aren't you a peach permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Krusty -11 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago Aren't you a peach permalink fedilink source parent
[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago there was like two settings to these things. They didn’t work at all or they turned red hot to maximum heat. Induction cooking is amazing because it has far more precise temperature control to gas. It's odd that you associate it with the opposite experience, when one of the best features of an induction heater is being able to set the exact temperature you want. I make soap and sweets at home, and posted this list the last time the gas vs induction thing game up: Setting it to exactly 40C means you can melt chocolate reliably, without the hassle of a bain marie At 60C you can combine cetostearyl alcohol and vegetable oil for moisturizer without boiling off your glycerine At 80C you can cook soap to the trace point you want without overcooking it and making it lumpy At 100C you can evaporate moisture and reduce a sauce with minimal effect on other ingredients At 100-160C you can cook a sugar syrup to a precisely desired level of concentration (as the boiling point goes up as the concentration increases) for making different types of candy Only the most specialized, professional gas stoves let you set a specific temperature rather than a knob that goes from "medium" to "high". Even the most basic $50 induction plates have that feature. The only thing you can do on gas that you can't do on induction is using the flame flambee alcohol, and you can just use a lighter or kitchen torch for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago they turned red hot to maximum heat Those weren't induction as far as i know, induction isn't supposed to get red hot permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* Being reminded of something doesn't make the comparison accurate. My induction range is awesome and nothing like that. It's a completely different technology than coil stoves. I've used gas professionally, I've used coils, I've used glasstop. Induction is the best by a wide margin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alavar@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 child) I have only induction stoves for 15 years now and the only thing that "sucks" is a) old electric that just required time to get used to b) touch control panel instead of buttons/knobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago There are a few models with physical knobs. This is the way with induction. Otherwise it's chaos when the pot of water boiling pasta overboils, and you can't fucking turn it down! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago There are a few models with physical knobs. This is the way with induction. Otherwise it's chaos when the pot of water boiling pasta overboils, and you can't fucking turn it down! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (7 children) Even if what you were saying is true you know that induction isn’t the only kind of electric range right? Sealed radiant cooktops are also more efficient and healthier than gas ranges and usually cheaper too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -5 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago you’ve just ‘passed the buck’ of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient than burning the gas for electricity to use for cooking, as you need to heat a boiler, spin a turbine, generate electric, send to your home … That’s inefficient. This is not true - industrial turbines burn more efficiently and form less pollutants than small burners which don't have the same quality control. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) you've just 'passed the buck' of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Expecting everyone to individually make choices that benefit the long-term, instead of consolidating resources to solve for large groups together using economies of scale, is exactly how the fossil fuel industry has been successful for generations at ensuring no progress is made. It's a divide-and-conquer approach. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient It absolutely isn't if you are comparing a gas stove vs an induction one. You are losing a huge amount of the heat around the pan and warming your room with gas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -2 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who's "they"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 3 months ago Send some papers, thx permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. Exactly, what would be the problem making an electric range be powered by solar power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Krusty -5 points 3 months ago (7 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago you’ve just ‘passed the buck’ of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient than burning the gas for electricity to use for cooking, as you need to heat a boiler, spin a turbine, generate electric, send to your home … That’s inefficient. This is not true - industrial turbines burn more efficiently and form less pollutants than small burners which don't have the same quality control. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) you've just 'passed the buck' of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Expecting everyone to individually make choices that benefit the long-term, instead of consolidating resources to solve for large groups together using economies of scale, is exactly how the fossil fuel industry has been successful for generations at ensuring no progress is made. It's a divide-and-conquer approach. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient It absolutely isn't if you are comparing a gas stove vs an induction one. You are losing a huge amount of the heat around the pan and warming your room with gas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -2 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who's "they"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 3 months ago Send some papers, thx permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. Exactly, what would be the problem making an electric range be powered by solar power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago you’ve just ‘passed the buck’ of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient than burning the gas for electricity to use for cooking, as you need to heat a boiler, spin a turbine, generate electric, send to your home … That’s inefficient. This is not true - industrial turbines burn more efficiently and form less pollutants than small burners which don't have the same quality control. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) you've just 'passed the buck' of the dirty air/pollution a few miles away. Expecting everyone to individually make choices that benefit the long-term, instead of consolidating resources to solve for large groups together using economies of scale, is exactly how the fossil fuel industry has been successful for generations at ensuring no progress is made. It's a divide-and-conquer approach. Here the thing, burning the fuel to directly heat a pan is far more efficient It absolutely isn't if you are comparing a gas stove vs an induction one. You are losing a huge amount of the heat around the pan and warming your room with gas. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Krusty -2 points 3 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brianary@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 child) Who's "they"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 3 months ago Send some papers, thx permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. Exactly, what would be the problem making an electric range be powered by solar power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Krusty 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. But it sounds like you’re planning on starving unless you can make your electric range be powered by solar power so have fun with that. Exactly, what would be the problem making an electric range be powered by solar power? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago What does that have anything to do with how well induction ranges work? permalink fedilink source parent