edit: I swear google has some code that listens to background noise and does this on purpose

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[–] 54 points 3 months ago (18 children)
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    It's not OP's fault English is a stupid language with words that sound identical but carry different meanings. I'm of the mindset that so long as it's legible it is correct. look at Old English. It was much more phonetic than modern English is. Scribes wrote words as they sounded. Languages like English have so many dumb and unnecessary rules as well. Why the fuck do we need capitalization rules anyway? Latin doesn't have it.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Getting corrected is how you learn. I often spell words wrong, because English isn't my first language, but I don't mind being corrected.

    But when to use "your" and "you're" is actually fairly easy to remember. "You're" is short for "you are" and is used when YOU are doing something. "Your" is used when someone else is doing something.

    You're sleeping vs. your cat is sleeping.

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    Can't wrong also be used as an adverb? Where wrongly is used before the verb, and both wrong and wrongly can be used after the verb?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    No.

    I mean, there's certainly a lot of misuse and poor grammar out there that does use it incorrectly, particularly in the US , but it is incorrect to use "wrong" as an adverb.

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    I'm not sure what your point is. That link appears to support what I said. Are you agreeing?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    It states:

    In informal language wrong can be used as an adverb instead of wrongly, when it means ‘incorrectly’ and comes after a verb or its object:

    • My name was spelt wrong.
    • I’m afraid you guessed wrong.
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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Ah I see now, I had to expand a section on that page to see that text.

    Yes, it claims that it is okay for informal speech, and I disagree. For me, it sounds really jarring to hear people drop the "ly", and every time I hear someone do that, I subconsciously correct them.

    I do not agree with the premise that commonly made errors are "correct" in informal speech, nor that posts full of grammar errors are okay in an informal setting like social media, and the reason is that kids learn how to spell by being exposed to written text, and the majority of that text these days is social media, meaning that they're being constantly exposed to errors, so they never learn how to spell, learn proper grammar, or how to professionally communicate.

    There's a very fine line, in my mind, between 'informal', and 'incorrect', and in this case, I think misuse of adverbs falls into the incorrect category.

    In other words,It's okay to make mistakes. It's not okay to consistently misspell words and simply declare it to be correct simply because the writer uses language that way.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I don't disagree but I think you're missing my point. Minor variations of spelling shouldn't matter, so long as it's legible. If someone says dey instead of they, dat instead of that, wader instead of water, why should that be any less correct? I know it's not exactly an apple to apples comparison but I believe language should be more flexible. So long as it's understandable, why should it matter? Especially because English has and will continue to evolve in our lifetime. Why do people think in terms of absolutes?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Because we have to agree on a standard. Or else we end up with nobody understanding each other.

    Yes, language changes over time, but we all agree on those changes.

    If we can just use what we each think is close enough we could end up with: water -> wader -> vader -> voder -> vodar -> voda.

    An ad sum pojnt no wun kan ondestant vod ani 1 ses.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    That's not how language works. Language isn't some absolute. English for example has many dialects, some of which are difficult for other speakers to understand. I disagree with the notion that we all have to agree with changes being made to our language. Zoomers are using words like skibidi, rizz, and fanumtax. Skibidi may fizzle out or it might be adopted by the masses and become ubiquitous a word as water. My point is that if me and enough people decide your is the correct spelling of you're than it becomes the correct spelling.

    "And at some point no one can understand what anyone says." Funny, you're (yes, I said you're on purpose) example sentence looks more Germanic than modern English lol.

    In conclusion, let's not interfere with the natural evolution of language. It's a beautiful thing to bear witness to.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's really fucking not hard to learn the correct usage. You're: you are, your: something belonging to or being part of you. You're isn't a word, it's a contraction of two words. It's so fucking simple to understand when to use any contraction or similar sounding word that there is never an excuse to get it wrong. It's also mostly native English speakers who get it wrong and part of that is the American educational system being one kf the worst in the world.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Shit like that used to bug me but eventually I realized it was a waste of time getting set off by incorrect word use or spelling. As long as the message isn't ambiguous, who cares? And even when it's on the border, it's often clear enough from the context what they really mean (though can be fun to deliberately misinterpret it).

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago

    It could also be that language evolves with time. If more people use "your", regardless of what the dictionary says than it's correct. I believe there will come a day when you're and your cease to be different.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Capitalization between sentences is needed because the period is so small. Or, the period can be small because we use capitalization between sentences. If we changed the symbol for the end of a sentence we could stop capitalizing the first letter of a sentence.

    Maybe that will happen someday, but not soon.

    If the point of written language is for the writer to communicate effectively, it's important to follow the current rules, as you have.

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