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Child Sexual Material Distribution in Chatrooms; please remove the comment section from here entirely (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/perchance@lemmy.world
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This again, isn’t the first time I’ve mentioned this ; given the severity of the activity, and the evidence I’ve provided, why hasn’t there been any action

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[–] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

It doesn’t matter if it isn’t, legal debates regarding the topic are irrelevant to ownership. The level of ignorance to consistently ignore the fact that this is arguably among the worst crimes globally; in the name of some sort of opposition to censorship, is ridiculous

Worst crimes globally, worse than slavery, the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide? What? Oh my God... You're a user with a blue helmet UN avatar larping as though you are an authority who can demand things of a developer who is literally ignoring you with good reason no less.

"Client-Side Processing: Sites that require no login—where scripts and data are temporarily processed directly in the visitor's browser or local device—minimize server-side data logs. By not retaining user history, these platforms often bypass liability for the content users generate locally."

"User-Generated Moderation & Obscurity: Content moderation is often decentralized, relying on community reporting, private groups, or obscure sub-communities rather than a central team. By maintaining a low profile or operating as a directory of independently hosted sandboxes, they evade sweeping censorship."

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    Child sexual exploitation is universally classified by international law and federal statutes as one of the most severe, non-negotiable violent crimes actively occurring today

    The public comment sections and chatrooms are fundamentally server-side 😭🙏🏽💔

    “Client-Side Processing: Sites that require no login—where scripts and data are temporarily processed directly in the visitor’s browser or local device—minimize server-side data logs. By not retaining user history, these platforms often bypass liability for the content users generate locally.”

    If User A posts a link to illegal material, and User B (miles away) can see and click that link, that data must pass through and be hosted by Perchance's servers to sync the chatroom. It is not "local." Furthermore, federal criminal laws regarding child safety completely override standard civil liability exemptions. You cannot code your way out of a federal crime by claiming, "We don't use logins." If federal contraband is being distributed across your network infrastructure and you are notified, which they absolutely have been; you are exposed.

    And the material is a mix of both what is generated, and literal real life child exploitation

    There is a massive difference between "evading automated censorship" and "evading federal criminal prosecution." Operating as a "decentralized sandbox" or keeping a "low profile" does not grant a platform a magical invisibility cloak against the law.

    Windydove larp award 🥇

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    How the Law Sees It: Under established internet law, a platform is not required to prevent every single bad thing from happening in real-time. It is required to provide a mechanism for users to report abuse and a process to remove illegal content once they are made aware of it.

    Good Samaritan Protections: Under Section 230, platforms are actually encouraged to use automated filters and community reporting. The law protects developers who make a "good faith" effort to moderate their platforms, even if some bad content occasionally slips through the automated cracks.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 3 months ago

    Nothing has been, that’s the issue. Someone literally leaked their trafficking profile on Telegram, on there; and absolutely nothing has been done. People still, actively distribute said materials and nothing has been done. “Not reporting everything” implies there’s been some for, of actual active effective moderation, where there has not

    S-230 is nullified under both negligence and the distribution of CSM, I explained this in the prior thread

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Chatrooms as one of the worst global crimes, that is wild. You know the website that you are using has no identification of its users, and creators of generators can choose to have chat if they want to which you can choose to join or not join. If you want to take action against Perchance you're welcome to try.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    This is some monumental level of ignorance 😭💔 Child sexual exploitation, the distribution of CSAM, and human trafficking; yes, are one of the highest crimes globally

    There is absolutely nothing intellectually inconsistent about it And the creation of the specific gen in question, is the developer themself You could, at minimum, moderate the room or assign moderators so the issue can be avoided entirely

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So, you expect a group of people to basically monitor chats for every particular generator on Perchance that codes in a comments panel? In addition to the AI moderation that is already present. That is impossible in real time. Literally impossible in real time. There is an automated system which is an effort, an attempt. But only so much can be done to manage anonymous users.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, I expect basic HUMAN moderation considering the site is now an arguable high risk intermediary; I cannot stress this enough

    This will legally come to screw the site later, so; it’s either moderate the damn official generators, or just pull the plug entirely

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    New Comment panels are popping up every day on new generators, the gen creators and AI moderation is at play. Perchance is not required to have 24/7 human moderation, this is not some sort of new phenomenon. Creators code those chatrooms in because they want to have have them embedded in their gens and have the freedom to do that. You think that you can bully the Dev into forcing people to not code chatrooms, it's really brazen.

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