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[–] 94 points 3 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Also this:

    Argentina invaded the island killed 3 Falklanders and then got their ass whooped. And to this day Argentines think they are the victims.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (6 children)

    The victims of this conflict are the casualties of a completely pointless war, on either side. Neither side fought for legitimate reasons and both used it to drum up nationalism.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    How is defending against an invasion not legitimate?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    It's only legitimate out of context. The two countries were trying to negotiate a transfer before the war broke out. Argentina was ruled by a military Junta and used the invasion to bolster its internal politics. Thatcher did the same thing by using overwhelming force over a territory that Britain was trying to get rid of. An Argentine cruiser was sunk outside of the exclusion zone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_ARA_General_Belgrano

    Afterwards Britain fortified the island to feed its military industrial complex and drum up more support for its decaying empire. Everything about this war was totally pointless except from a domestic political standpoint.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/07/british-sovereignty-falklands-absurd-imperial-hangover-argentina

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    So what should have been the right move then when Argentina invaded the islands? Should Thatcher just have abandoned the people on the Falklands and let them fend for themselves?

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Helpful, but is there more context here?

    Such as who are there people currently living there and therefore voting in this referendum?

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  • [–] 65 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The descendants of the only people to live on the islands since pre-history. Literally the only people whose opinions count, including the uk population and government. It doesn’t matter what the Argentinians or the British think really, same as Greenland - the people who live there want to be a part of the uk

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    The modern population of the island are the natives, kinda like how Icelands population is completely native to the island. Not to say people didn't fuck around on the island occasionally but there's basically no evidence of prehistoric settlement of the Falklands.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, I entirely agree on principle. But that's my question, who are these people? According to Wikipedia, there are no such people:

    Although Fuegians from Patagonia may have visited the Falkland Islands in prehistoric times, the islands were uninhabited when Europeans first explored them.

    So I suppose I have my answer overall. The people living there are broadly the descendents of the French, Spanich and English who settled there in the late 18th century. The French ceded the settlement to Spain a year after they started, so even just scratching the surface of the situation it looks like it's been a mess for 250 years.

    But in any case, the people living there, now, clearly want to remain a UK territory.

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  • [–] 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    People who has always live there?

    The Maldives has never had Spanish/Argentinian population.

    Argentina only claims it based on physical proximity, not on the will of its population.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Malvinas not Maldives (they're half a world apart), and there have been briefly Spanish/Argentinian populations on the islands between 1774 and 1820 but none since then. The majority of whom were one of a) a military garrison b) convicts c) guards of convicts. Very small numbers of non military settlers during that period

    So broadly yes, everyone who has been there since the early 1800s is aligned with the UK

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