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George Lucas Goes To The Dark Side, Says AI Is ‘The Future’ (kotaku.com)
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[–] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (29 children)

Lucas creating star wars doesnt mean he's any sort of genius.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

    Its not political but he is an artist and that is why it is shocking Edit: OP first wrote: something along the lines of "why is it now seen as political"

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  • [+] -2 points 3 months ago (11 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    But writing a critical successful and belovid series of films does

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Does it? He certainly worked with a lot of talented artists, and I guess he did think of doing Hero's Journey but in space.

    I'm not denigrating the art, but something about the popularity contest tastemaking rubs me the wrong way.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Objectively you can ask a billion people and see what their opinions are on various star wars media. It's one of the few things a billion people will know and have an opinion about.

    But because George Lucas said something positive about AI use for visual effects, suddenly what mustn't be, can't be. You people have no problem denying reality and shouting out alternative facts if it suits your agenda.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    What about attempting to ChatGPT his own work decades before GPTs were a thing?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    I thought Frank Herbert created Star Wars

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    No, Isaac Asimov did

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    You'll have to explain this one. I was making fun of the fact that George Lucas plagiarized Dune.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Much of Star Wars was "inspired" by Foundation

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I didn't know liking AI was political

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Everything is political - the toilet paper you buy, the corporations you support, the things you pay attention to and the things you don't, the media you consume, the books you read, your decision not to read, whether you pay union dues, the parks you visit, the roads you use, the services you rely on, what you decide to ignore.

    People who say they are not political just mean they don't consciously engage with politics. But even the decision to not engage in politics is a political decision.

    AI may eventually replace jobs, pollute water, take up energy, and concentrate wealth at the top even more. Whether you support, are against, or ignore AI, all 3 are political decisions.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    That sounds like fundamentalism tbh. It’s very much adjacent to the thinking of religious fanatics framing everything in relation to the divine, when most people are just trying to get along with their lives.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    But there is a difference: If you buy the toilet paper from the loggers who bribe your local officials, or who lobby to let them ravage national parks, you are supporting the bribery and the lobbying; your money is being used for those purposes, even if you do it unknowingly. If you don't inform yourself, you cannot make informed decisions. But just because you choose to ignore the political ramifications, it doesn't mean they don't exist.

    Sure, everybody just wants to live their lives, and that's how lobbyists and crooked politicians get away with it, by appealing to your apathy.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    No one with responsibilities has time to worry about where the pulp in their toilet paper came from, I’d be surprised if the factory could even tell you that.

    There is no way you are practicing what you preach here. You are telling me you spend all day vetting every product and service you use to be aware of every little injustice involved? Or are you just following whatever someone else told you in a feed and assuming they are correct? That would functionally be religion.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

    The argument isn't over whether I behave in a morally responsible way when it comes to the products I consume. The argument is over whether my diligence to check the background of the products I consume is a political decision.

    I am not trying to highhorse anybody here. Of course I make uninformed decisions once in an oftentimes. Of course not all my clothes are socially conscious sourced nor my toilet paper is bought from an environmentally friendly forest.

    But my lack of information when I make those decisions is political.

    I am sorry you are feeling personally attacked, clearly, but not paying attention, changing what you buy, refusing to consume, or consuming products; All of those are political decisions, and that is the argument. No whether you are good or evil, uninformed misinformed, or not informed, moral or immoral. My argument is just that every decision you make has a political ramification whether you like it or not.

    So, back to my original point, liking AI is political.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (2 children)

    No I don’t feel attacked. I just don’t think it is useful to construe everything as political. Are the actions of animals also political? I think people would say no; but then can we be so sure that everything a human does is political? Something only becomes political when it is done with a political intent, knowingly making a choice because of some secondary association when equivalent alternatives are available.

    When everything is framed as political you end up in the same place as dogmatists in all religions, trying to enforce some universal moral framework on every detail of a persons life. Many people will check out from that type of argument. Worse, many will think you and the causes that are import to you are jokes, and you become part of another's political fodder.

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