▲ 101 ▼ Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights. Terrasse-Vaudreuil 1st municipality in Canada to sign on to Universal Declaration of the Rights of the Tree. (www.cbc.ca) submitted 4 months ago by Lemmynated@lemmy.zip to c/world 64 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (9 children) Wow, did you not read the things you were typing while you were typing them..? I thought the idea that the world was made by god to serve humans was known to not exactly be a fact, but apparently some people believe it still. By the way, yes, quite obviously you are not "woke". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) They teach that in some churches though, that "everything on earth was put here for us by god". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago We can trace every living thing on the planet's lineage back to a single common ancestor. We are quite literally one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago (5 children) Trees don't exist "for" us. Animals don't exist "for" us. We are a cosmic accident. The fact that they make our lives easier in a great variety of ways is incidental. Trees, like all plants, exist as a similar cosmic accident and their "purpose" is to continue their spread and growth. I'm not going to stop using wood any time soon, but the way you're trying to paint humans as like, the one true species or some shit, is fucking gross permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) did you read the fuckin article? lol you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) did you read the fuckin article? lol Yes, an unscientific puff piece about green washing being presented as a good thing despite it doing nothing of value. It's the same thing as Target making a press release about rainbow children's onesies or when the US government super duper promises to replant some of the trees they blow up. you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Read On Authority by Engels sometime. Not only is the point of Marxism not the elimination of all Hierarchy, communism is in fact impossible without some hierarchies. Yes, everything exists to serve humans. This also means humans have the responsibility to continue the things that keep us alive. Saying 'oh woo woo says we're all equal and one' takes all responsibility off of humanity. The same as this nonsense: Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. Maybe, we can't know that and it would be a pointless existence for them at that point. They exist so that we can exist, so we can keep them existing so we can continue to exist. The opposite is not true. Trees cannot take care of us. They are not the solution to climate change. They don't sequester anywhere enough carbon for the amount we're releasing. They're too inefficient. And we've done too much damage. By showing we are able to end all life on Earth we show that not only is everything dependent on us, we have the sole responsibility of their survival as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago Oh you're gross gross. I see. Pity cause you're otherwise a quality leftie. I won't be talking to you anymore, but have a wonderful life and I hope you'll reconsider your stance on this issue! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (29 children) Wow, human exceptionalism is fucking gross. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) the earth gave us a place to hold life. Not a traitor to my species, just humble enough to understand we are at the mercy of nature. For example, without the trees we'd not have anything to burn when we found fire. Nor wood houses, nor yes, our furniture. But also no shade to keep us from the sun, no place for the birds and squirrels to nest. Trees give life for many outside our species too. In nature, all is connected. It's graditute, respect, and understanding. Ill edit this if I can find a link, but a national forest removed the wolves from its park. A time later, the trees started dying. Sceince found (and i forget so imma look it up,) somehow the missing wolves lead to the dead trees, so they reintroduced the wolves. I believe deer pop exploded and were eating the trees dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago How wolves change rivers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Are you at the mercy of the canned food in your kitchen? Are you at the mercy of the charge in your car's battery? Are you at the mercy of the clothes on your body? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Sorry you're a traitor to every form of life except your own, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (19 children) That's not how life works. Every single form of life requires the destruction of other life, until we get down to individual amino acid chains which are very arguably not life the same way a fetus is not life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) youre a capitalist. All these points you make align with capitalism. good work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago Nothing exists for humans. Fix yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (7 children) Trees exist for trees. Their purpose is to make more trees. Humans are not a consideration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Their purpose is whatever purpose we have for them. We could eliminate them at any time on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) You are looking at this as if the whole world was made for humans. You perhaps a creationist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I'm looking at this as if Humans have made the world for humans. Which we have. That's the opposite of creationism, and the opposite of whatever pseduoreligious spiritualist nonsense people like you push. We are not innocent equals in this world. We are responsible for the death of at least 75% of species since the 1800s. We have the exclusive power to control all other species. They exist at our whim, and it is our sole responsibility to continue making them exist. Which we have taken on over the last 50,000 years in the way of permanently changing what species are, how they grow, and wholesale inventing new ones to serve our needs. And we did most of that with a fucking bicameral mind. We are not equal to trees. Trees cannot do anything we can do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) That is an incredibly colonialist capitalist attitude and it's exactly what got us into this ecological crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You objectively do not know what either of those words mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Oh, sweetie. Honey. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're one of those people that thinks there's a sky daddy aren't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Again quite the opposite. I don't believe in the great spirit or oneness with everything or any of the hippie shit behind your ideology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (9 children) Wow, did you not read the things you were typing while you were typing them..? I thought the idea that the world was made by god to serve humans was known to not exactly be a fact, but apparently some people believe it still. By the way, yes, quite obviously you are not "woke". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) They teach that in some churches though, that "everything on earth was put here for us by god". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago We can trace every living thing on the planet's lineage back to a single common ancestor. We are quite literally one. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) They teach that in some churches though, that "everything on earth was put here for us by god". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago We can trace every living thing on the planet's lineage back to a single common ancestor. We are quite literally one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) They teach that in some churches though, that "everything on earth was put here for us by god". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (4 children) Oh wow, you're quite amazing. Tell me that you know nothing about nature without telling me that you know nothing about nature. "The only serious life form on earth" XD At this point I'll choose to believe that you're just trolling, I can't actually believe that someone would have such a moronic take. But good job, I almost fell for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children) Yes exactly, let me know of a species that has degenerated so badly it is destroying itself and most of the environment that it requires to live. A lot of animals manage to alter their environment in complex ways, none is doing it as badly as humans. Humans are even so stupid that they are trapping themselves on earth by transforming the sky into a garbage dump (well, and everything else they can find). Just stop here, you're making things worse for yourself. Just say that you're a troll and move on, it will look less pathetic than actually defending the idea that humans are better than other species (and let alone the even more stupid take that nature is made for humans to exploit). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
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[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago That's your answer? Really? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago We can trace every living thing on the planet's lineage back to a single common ancestor. We are quite literally one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago (5 children) Trees don't exist "for" us. Animals don't exist "for" us. We are a cosmic accident. The fact that they make our lives easier in a great variety of ways is incidental. Trees, like all plants, exist as a similar cosmic accident and their "purpose" is to continue their spread and growth. I'm not going to stop using wood any time soon, but the way you're trying to paint humans as like, the one true species or some shit, is fucking gross permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) did you read the fuckin article? lol you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) did you read the fuckin article? lol Yes, an unscientific puff piece about green washing being presented as a good thing despite it doing nothing of value. It's the same thing as Target making a press release about rainbow children's onesies or when the US government super duper promises to replant some of the trees they blow up. you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Read On Authority by Engels sometime. Not only is the point of Marxism not the elimination of all Hierarchy, communism is in fact impossible without some hierarchies. Yes, everything exists to serve humans. This also means humans have the responsibility to continue the things that keep us alive. Saying 'oh woo woo says we're all equal and one' takes all responsibility off of humanity. The same as this nonsense: Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. Maybe, we can't know that and it would be a pointless existence for them at that point. They exist so that we can exist, so we can keep them existing so we can continue to exist. The opposite is not true. Trees cannot take care of us. They are not the solution to climate change. They don't sequester anywhere enough carbon for the amount we're releasing. They're too inefficient. And we've done too much damage. By showing we are able to end all life on Earth we show that not only is everything dependent on us, we have the sole responsibility of their survival as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago Oh you're gross gross. I see. Pity cause you're otherwise a quality leftie. I won't be talking to you anymore, but have a wonderful life and I hope you'll reconsider your stance on this issue! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) did you read the fuckin article? lol you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) did you read the fuckin article? lol Yes, an unscientific puff piece about green washing being presented as a good thing despite it doing nothing of value. It's the same thing as Target making a press release about rainbow children's onesies or when the US government super duper promises to replant some of the trees they blow up. you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Read On Authority by Engels sometime. Not only is the point of Marxism not the elimination of all Hierarchy, communism is in fact impossible without some hierarchies. Yes, everything exists to serve humans. This also means humans have the responsibility to continue the things that keep us alive. Saying 'oh woo woo says we're all equal and one' takes all responsibility off of humanity. The same as this nonsense: Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. Maybe, we can't know that and it would be a pointless existence for them at that point. They exist so that we can exist, so we can keep them existing so we can continue to exist. The opposite is not true. Trees cannot take care of us. They are not the solution to climate change. They don't sequester anywhere enough carbon for the amount we're releasing. They're too inefficient. And we've done too much damage. By showing we are able to end all life on Earth we show that not only is everything dependent on us, we have the sole responsibility of their survival as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago Oh you're gross gross. I see. Pity cause you're otherwise a quality leftie. I won't be talking to you anymore, but have a wonderful life and I hope you'll reconsider your stance on this issue! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) did you read the fuckin article? lol you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) did you read the fuckin article? lol Yes, an unscientific puff piece about green washing being presented as a good thing despite it doing nothing of value. It's the same thing as Target making a press release about rainbow children's onesies or when the US government super duper promises to replant some of the trees they blow up. you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Read On Authority by Engels sometime. Not only is the point of Marxism not the elimination of all Hierarchy, communism is in fact impossible without some hierarchies. Yes, everything exists to serve humans. This also means humans have the responsibility to continue the things that keep us alive. Saying 'oh woo woo says we're all equal and one' takes all responsibility off of humanity. The same as this nonsense: Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. Maybe, we can't know that and it would be a pointless existence for them at that point. They exist so that we can exist, so we can keep them existing so we can continue to exist. The opposite is not true. Trees cannot take care of us. They are not the solution to climate change. They don't sequester anywhere enough carbon for the amount we're releasing. They're too inefficient. And we've done too much damage. By showing we are able to end all life on Earth we show that not only is everything dependent on us, we have the sole responsibility of their survival as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) did you read the fuckin article? lol Yes, an unscientific puff piece about green washing being presented as a good thing despite it doing nothing of value. It's the same thing as Target making a press release about rainbow children's onesies or when the US government super duper promises to replant some of the trees they blow up. you need to change your name yo, what youre talking about is heirarchy. That humans are better than everything else, and anything else soley exsist to serve humans. Read On Authority by Engels sometime. Not only is the point of Marxism not the elimination of all Hierarchy, communism is in fact impossible without some hierarchies. Yes, everything exists to serve humans. This also means humans have the responsibility to continue the things that keep us alive. Saying 'oh woo woo says we're all equal and one' takes all responsibility off of humanity. The same as this nonsense: Without humans, the trees and animals would still be here. Maybe, we can't know that and it would be a pointless existence for them at that point. They exist so that we can exist, so we can keep them existing so we can continue to exist. The opposite is not true. Trees cannot take care of us. They are not the solution to climate change. They don't sequester anywhere enough carbon for the amount we're releasing. They're too inefficient. And we've done too much damage. By showing we are able to end all life on Earth we show that not only is everything dependent on us, we have the sole responsibility of their survival as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago I dont think Id enjoy living my life if I were you. bummer. sorry yo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago Oh you're gross gross. I see. Pity cause you're otherwise a quality leftie. I won't be talking to you anymore, but have a wonderful life and I hope you'll reconsider your stance on this issue! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (29 children) Wow, human exceptionalism is fucking gross. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) the earth gave us a place to hold life. Not a traitor to my species, just humble enough to understand we are at the mercy of nature. For example, without the trees we'd not have anything to burn when we found fire. Nor wood houses, nor yes, our furniture. But also no shade to keep us from the sun, no place for the birds and squirrels to nest. Trees give life for many outside our species too. In nature, all is connected. It's graditute, respect, and understanding. Ill edit this if I can find a link, but a national forest removed the wolves from its park. A time later, the trees started dying. Sceince found (and i forget so imma look it up,) somehow the missing wolves lead to the dead trees, so they reintroduced the wolves. I believe deer pop exploded and were eating the trees dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago How wolves change rivers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Are you at the mercy of the canned food in your kitchen? Are you at the mercy of the charge in your car's battery? Are you at the mercy of the clothes on your body? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Sorry you're a traitor to every form of life except your own, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (19 children) That's not how life works. Every single form of life requires the destruction of other life, until we get down to individual amino acid chains which are very arguably not life the same way a fetus is not life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) youre a capitalist. All these points you make align with capitalism. good work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) the earth gave us a place to hold life. Not a traitor to my species, just humble enough to understand we are at the mercy of nature. For example, without the trees we'd not have anything to burn when we found fire. Nor wood houses, nor yes, our furniture. But also no shade to keep us from the sun, no place for the birds and squirrels to nest. Trees give life for many outside our species too. In nature, all is connected. It's graditute, respect, and understanding. Ill edit this if I can find a link, but a national forest removed the wolves from its park. A time later, the trees started dying. Sceince found (and i forget so imma look it up,) somehow the missing wolves lead to the dead trees, so they reintroduced the wolves. I believe deer pop exploded and were eating the trees dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago How wolves change rivers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Are you at the mercy of the canned food in your kitchen? Are you at the mercy of the charge in your car's battery? Are you at the mercy of the clothes on your body? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Sorry you're a traitor to every form of life except your own, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (19 children) That's not how life works. Every single form of life requires the destruction of other life, until we get down to individual amino acid chains which are very arguably not life the same way a fetus is not life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) youre a capitalist. All these points you make align with capitalism. good work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) the earth gave us a place to hold life. Not a traitor to my species, just humble enough to understand we are at the mercy of nature. For example, without the trees we'd not have anything to burn when we found fire. Nor wood houses, nor yes, our furniture. But also no shade to keep us from the sun, no place for the birds and squirrels to nest. Trees give life for many outside our species too. In nature, all is connected. It's graditute, respect, and understanding. Ill edit this if I can find a link, but a national forest removed the wolves from its park. A time later, the trees started dying. Sceince found (and i forget so imma look it up,) somehow the missing wolves lead to the dead trees, so they reintroduced the wolves. I believe deer pop exploded and were eating the trees dead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago How wolves change rivers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Are you at the mercy of the canned food in your kitchen? Are you at the mercy of the charge in your car's battery? Are you at the mercy of the clothes on your body? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago How wolves change rivers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Are you at the mercy of the canned food in your kitchen? Are you at the mercy of the charge in your car's battery? Are you at the mercy of the clothes on your body? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children) Sorry you're a traitor to every form of life except your own, lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (19 children) That's not how life works. Every single form of life requires the destruction of other life, until we get down to individual amino acid chains which are very arguably not life the same way a fetus is not life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (19 children) That's not how life works. Every single form of life requires the destruction of other life, until we get down to individual amino acid chains which are very arguably not life the same way a fetus is not life. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (11 children) Right, and you have no respect for the other living beings that occupy that cycle? You know we're driving 200 other species to extinction every day, and when we run out, we die too, lol. Your attitude is why human beings are an extinction event. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (10 children) No, your attitude is exactly why we are driving the extinction event. Every single climate change denier says the exact same tired point, "We're too small, too insignificant to change the climate." This idea humans are just another animal is objectively incorrect, and dangerous. We're not smol beans. We're not powerless. We're not equal to random animals. If we were we wouldn't have been able to cause an extinction event, we wouldn't have changed the climate, and we wouldn't be directly responsible for 60% of the animal biomass on the planet existing period. If more people realized humans exist at the top of the food chain and are responsible for our environment and not the other way around, we could actually talk about taking global initiatives seriously. But for as long as you people repeat the far-right Christian view that we're just another one of God's Creations we're going to keep shirking the responsibility inherent to being the singular capable lifeform on this planet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children) What a fucking stupid world view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (8 children) Sorry liberal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (7 children) I'm a socialist, you moron. I'm also an environmentalist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Clearly you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be taking the 'oh human can't effect the environment we're just like cows and trees man we just exist in nature we can't possibly have any effect on it' logic train. There's a reason the CIA invented the hippie movement to help permanently ruin left-wing movements in the US. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children) cough projection cough have fun today capitalist :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Whatever you say, liberal. Hope we really do live in your fantasy world where anthropomorphic climate change isn't real. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago AnthropoGENic. Anthropomorphic is "shaped like human". An anthropomorphic cat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) I didn't say any of that, in fact I said we are an extinction event. How stupid are you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You are in fact saying that. If we're 'just another animal' and 'just a part of nature,' then logically we can't affect nature any more than any other animal. Meaning anthropomorphic climate change cannot be real under your logic system. Which I personally disagree with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago Buddy, algae caused an extinction event. We're not that special, except for the fact that we're killing ourselves and every other living thing on the planet faster than any extinction event in history. anthropomorphic climate change 😂 You can't be serious man. I think you mean anthropogenic climate change, which is very real and a reason why we're just another stupid animal using up resources so fast and sloppily that it's going to end with possibly our own extinction. You jump to a lot of conclusions (usually wrong) and end up at some really disgusting places with your thought process. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Eating, you know food. Nothing can survive off of photosynthesis alone, sugar isn't that useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) The corpses of fungi, you uneducated droolpan. In some cases they just parasitize the fungi (Myco-Heterotrophy). In some cases it's "symbiotic" in that the fungi sends its dead cells and receives sugar in exchange. Also what do you think fertilizer is? It's dead plant matter processed by animals and insects. Without fungus feeding on soil enriched by microbes, plants wouldn't exist on land. And in the ocean, especially where there is little light, how do you think plants survive, you example of your education system? By eating microbes and the poop of other creatures eating microbes and plants. And where do those microbes, when we go far enough down, get their energy? By eating amino acids that would otherwise form into life. I guess you could say this is the bottom of the chain as long as fetuses aren't people so amino acids aren't life, but that seems like a cop out at that point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) Plants absorb resulting nutrients from their decomposition. ...So they eat their corpses. Thanks for agreeing with me? What do you think the word 'decomposition' means? I would be curious to know how easy you think abiogenesis is achieved. It's apparently not / that / hard. It’s not a cop-out, this is just you conceding. It's crazy we've gone from your position of plants don't destroy other life to maybe life doesn't exist so quickly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) youre a capitalist. All these points you make align with capitalism. good work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) You're not capable of making that determination based on your post history. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago Bunch of us in agreement here. Keep up the fight, it’s a great example of how not to be for future generations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago aww, you peeked my profile :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago Nothing exists for humans. Fix yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (7 children) Trees exist for trees. Their purpose is to make more trees. Humans are not a consideration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Their purpose is whatever purpose we have for them. We could eliminate them at any time on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) You are looking at this as if the whole world was made for humans. You perhaps a creationist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I'm looking at this as if Humans have made the world for humans. Which we have. That's the opposite of creationism, and the opposite of whatever pseduoreligious spiritualist nonsense people like you push. We are not innocent equals in this world. We are responsible for the death of at least 75% of species since the 1800s. We have the exclusive power to control all other species. They exist at our whim, and it is our sole responsibility to continue making them exist. Which we have taken on over the last 50,000 years in the way of permanently changing what species are, how they grow, and wholesale inventing new ones to serve our needs. And we did most of that with a fucking bicameral mind. We are not equal to trees. Trees cannot do anything we can do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) That is an incredibly colonialist capitalist attitude and it's exactly what got us into this ecological crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You objectively do not know what either of those words mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Oh, sweetie. Honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (6 children) Their purpose is whatever purpose we have for them. We could eliminate them at any time on a whim. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) You are looking at this as if the whole world was made for humans. You perhaps a creationist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I'm looking at this as if Humans have made the world for humans. Which we have. That's the opposite of creationism, and the opposite of whatever pseduoreligious spiritualist nonsense people like you push. We are not innocent equals in this world. We are responsible for the death of at least 75% of species since the 1800s. We have the exclusive power to control all other species. They exist at our whim, and it is our sole responsibility to continue making them exist. Which we have taken on over the last 50,000 years in the way of permanently changing what species are, how they grow, and wholesale inventing new ones to serve our needs. And we did most of that with a fucking bicameral mind. We are not equal to trees. Trees cannot do anything we can do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) That is an incredibly colonialist capitalist attitude and it's exactly what got us into this ecological crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You objectively do not know what either of those words mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Oh, sweetie. Honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) You are looking at this as if the whole world was made for humans. You perhaps a creationist? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I'm looking at this as if Humans have made the world for humans. Which we have. That's the opposite of creationism, and the opposite of whatever pseduoreligious spiritualist nonsense people like you push. We are not innocent equals in this world. We are responsible for the death of at least 75% of species since the 1800s. We have the exclusive power to control all other species. They exist at our whim, and it is our sole responsibility to continue making them exist. Which we have taken on over the last 50,000 years in the way of permanently changing what species are, how they grow, and wholesale inventing new ones to serve our needs. And we did most of that with a fucking bicameral mind. We are not equal to trees. Trees cannot do anything we can do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I'm looking at this as if Humans have made the world for humans. Which we have. That's the opposite of creationism, and the opposite of whatever pseduoreligious spiritualist nonsense people like you push. We are not innocent equals in this world. We are responsible for the death of at least 75% of species since the 1800s. We have the exclusive power to control all other species. They exist at our whim, and it is our sole responsibility to continue making them exist. Which we have taken on over the last 50,000 years in the way of permanently changing what species are, how they grow, and wholesale inventing new ones to serve our needs. And we did most of that with a fucking bicameral mind. We are not equal to trees. Trees cannot do anything we can do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wilt@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago How narrow your view is. How sad and singular its path. How unable to witness the world’s beauty as its own. Humans exist on a survivable vaneer created through chance and time, and we will equally cease to exist if that small biome is disrupted. Your earlier comment states we could wipe the trees from existence on a whim, and you are completely correct, however how long would we survive without them? Could you be so shallow to believe that the progress of other humans is so great, that we do not need the very nature that keeps us alive? Sadness, all of it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) That is an incredibly colonialist capitalist attitude and it's exactly what got us into this ecological crisis. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You objectively do not know what either of those words mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Oh, sweetie. Honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) You objectively do not know what either of those words mean. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago Oh, sweetie. Honey. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) You're one of those people that thinks there's a sky daddy aren't you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Again quite the opposite. I don't believe in the great spirit or oneness with everything or any of the hippie shit behind your ideology. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 1 point 4 months ago Again quite the opposite. I don't believe in the great spirit or oneness with everything or any of the hippie shit behind your ideology. permalink fedilink source parent