▲ 620 ▼ Conservatives are dying at higher rates than liberals. A new study points to mistrust in medicine (www.nature.com) submitted 4 months ago by Some_Emo_Chick@lemmy.world to c/science@lemmy.world 216 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago (8 children) They're not dying, they're just earning Darwin Awards. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago Winners until the very end! permalink fedilink source parent [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (6 children) Really wish you guys would stop subscribing to eugenics as an own against fascists. I know you're gonna say it isn't, because you guys always do, but the obvious joke here is that they're stupid and make stupid decisions because they are stupid and are purged from the collective genepool because they are stupid. Do you seriously not see the problem with reproducing the notion that political and cultural forces are in fact consistent with the natural world, or that people who are "stupid" are weak and unfit to be part of human evolution? Yes, anti-science beliefs are not a sign of scientific (or emotional) literacy, and the people who refuse medical science on the basis of politics likely do not understand either topic very well. It is worth noting that the recent Ebola outbreak in the DRC was met with violence from locals who did not trust the medical institution (and this has happened before), which also results from a misunderstanding of what that institution is and how it works: https://www.npr.org/2026/05/29/g-s1-124359/ebola-outbreak-trust-death-burial-democratic-republic-congo. Their mistrust is also earned by centuries of EuroAmerican imperialism and decades of capitalization on the material and political insecurities in the DRC. There is certainly good reason to attribute more responsibility to privileged white people in the US imperial metropole, but your joke makes the exact opposite point, which is that people who are too "stupid" to accept medical science are naturally inferior to those who do. Can you see the problem with taking that assertion for granted as a "joke?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) I just don't give a shit anymore. Do u? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yeah. This is where I'm at. They burned through all my goodwill. And I really did used to have some set aside for them. Now I really don't care if they die. Sounds like a them problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes. I give a shit about challenging racism, genocide, or any other forms of naturalized violence under colonialism and capitalism. Apathy is for liberals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Okie dokie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) Hey... if you think choosing RFK's "scientific" advice is being illiterate when it was clearly a political stance who am i to judge... you're wasting your keyboard though, i have absolutely no sympathy for those who show none and applaud any moron who thinks drinking bleach will cleanse COVID because some incompetent businessman - not a doctor - said so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* Love that you couldn't even control yourself long enough to read up to how this connects to racism and colonialism and decided instead to admit that you don't care if you advocate for white supremacy to own the MAGAts. It's fine to call them stupid, dummy, it's bad to assert that intelligence is naturalized and unfit members of society deserve to be purged from existence. News flash: that is anti-science (and science and anti-science are both political btw), dicknuts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago Winners until the very end! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (6 children) Really wish you guys would stop subscribing to eugenics as an own against fascists. I know you're gonna say it isn't, because you guys always do, but the obvious joke here is that they're stupid and make stupid decisions because they are stupid and are purged from the collective genepool because they are stupid. Do you seriously not see the problem with reproducing the notion that political and cultural forces are in fact consistent with the natural world, or that people who are "stupid" are weak and unfit to be part of human evolution? Yes, anti-science beliefs are not a sign of scientific (or emotional) literacy, and the people who refuse medical science on the basis of politics likely do not understand either topic very well. It is worth noting that the recent Ebola outbreak in the DRC was met with violence from locals who did not trust the medical institution (and this has happened before), which also results from a misunderstanding of what that institution is and how it works: https://www.npr.org/2026/05/29/g-s1-124359/ebola-outbreak-trust-death-burial-democratic-republic-congo. Their mistrust is also earned by centuries of EuroAmerican imperialism and decades of capitalization on the material and political insecurities in the DRC. There is certainly good reason to attribute more responsibility to privileged white people in the US imperial metropole, but your joke makes the exact opposite point, which is that people who are too "stupid" to accept medical science are naturally inferior to those who do. Can you see the problem with taking that assertion for granted as a "joke?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) I just don't give a shit anymore. Do u? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yeah. This is where I'm at. They burned through all my goodwill. And I really did used to have some set aside for them. Now I really don't care if they die. Sounds like a them problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes. I give a shit about challenging racism, genocide, or any other forms of naturalized violence under colonialism and capitalism. Apathy is for liberals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Okie dokie. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) Hey... if you think choosing RFK's "scientific" advice is being illiterate when it was clearly a political stance who am i to judge... you're wasting your keyboard though, i have absolutely no sympathy for those who show none and applaud any moron who thinks drinking bleach will cleanse COVID because some incompetent businessman - not a doctor - said so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* Love that you couldn't even control yourself long enough to read up to how this connects to racism and colonialism and decided instead to admit that you don't care if you advocate for white supremacy to own the MAGAts. It's fine to call them stupid, dummy, it's bad to assert that intelligence is naturalized and unfit members of society deserve to be purged from existence. News flash: that is anti-science (and science and anti-science are both political btw), dicknuts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) I just don't give a shit anymore. Do u? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yeah. This is where I'm at. They burned through all my goodwill. And I really did used to have some set aside for them. Now I really don't care if they die. Sounds like a them problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes. I give a shit about challenging racism, genocide, or any other forms of naturalized violence under colonialism and capitalism. Apathy is for liberals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Okie dokie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Yeah. This is where I'm at. They burned through all my goodwill. And I really did used to have some set aside for them. Now I really don't care if they die. Sounds like a them problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes. I give a shit about challenging racism, genocide, or any other forms of naturalized violence under colonialism and capitalism. Apathy is for liberals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Okie dokie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago Okie dokie. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 months ago (1 child) Hey... if you think choosing RFK's "scientific" advice is being illiterate when it was clearly a political stance who am i to judge... you're wasting your keyboard though, i have absolutely no sympathy for those who show none and applaud any moron who thinks drinking bleach will cleanse COVID because some incompetent businessman - not a doctor - said so. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* Love that you couldn't even control yourself long enough to read up to how this connects to racism and colonialism and decided instead to admit that you don't care if you advocate for white supremacy to own the MAGAts. It's fine to call them stupid, dummy, it's bad to assert that intelligence is naturalized and unfit members of society deserve to be purged from existence. News flash: that is anti-science (and science and anti-science are both political btw), dicknuts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* Love that you couldn't even control yourself long enough to read up to how this connects to racism and colonialism and decided instead to admit that you don't care if you advocate for white supremacy to own the MAGAts. It's fine to call them stupid, dummy, it's bad to assert that intelligence is naturalized and unfit members of society deserve to be purged from existence. News flash: that is anti-science (and science and anti-science are both political btw), dicknuts. permalink fedilink source parent