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How To Opt Out Of Your Car’s Surveillance State (Before It’s Too Late) (www.carsandhorsepower.com)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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Modern cars are spy hubs on wheels, tracking your location, conversations, and behavior.

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[–] 14 points 4 months ago (20 children)

Can't you get older car rebuilt into electric? Seems like it could give it some more years. Correct me if I am wrong tho, I am not great at cars lol

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Sure, but IIRC, there's a federal law requiring certain devices to be included in a new car. That probably doesn't include a rebuild, but it could if that becomes a popular enough option to avoid it. It's also usually quite expensive.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Would hope for EU to not have these laws, but I feel like that would be too much hope

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The EU seems to being going full steam on destroying privacy too, so I wouldn't bet on it.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Unfortunately yeah... I believe they are talking about reviving Chat Control 1.0 today... Once again

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Yeah and even if someone is just making barebones frames for kit builds, I think there are legal limits on the number of kit cars that a single shop can do in a year. But those are corporate protectionist laws that we should probably get rid of.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Can’t you get older car rebuilt into electric?

    For $50,000 ...then you get an old car no one can fix.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    Not quite that much in most cases, but yes a good electric conversion is always in the 5 digits. My old Ranger would be $20K in today's dollars to full convert, if done professionally and correctly. And there's enough rust problems with a frame from the early 90s that you question if something like that is worth it in the long run.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Some companies do offer this for a quite hefty price.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Heftier than a new car?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I looked at it at one point (quite a while back) and yes, it was more than a new car usually. It alone was about the price of a new car, like $30k IIRC (again, many years ago I think pre-covid even). You also need to include the car, so add a few thousand, or more depending on the car.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If I already have a car I like that sounds like an awesome deal.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, it's definitely something to look into. It's not a bad deal at least. It just costs a lot because it's mostly unique work for a single vehicle, rather than a factory pumping out the same one over and over.

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