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Just a friendly welcome post (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26769543

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[–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

While there are many good differences that Piefed implements, its heavy-handed use of built-in content blocks is concerning. Arguments have been made that such features are merely a default option that can be changed by other instances, but aside from the dominance of piefed.social, many instance owners are unlikely to change most default settings.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Tbf, a TON of information surrounding that issue turned out to be false. Though at its core you may be correct - and yet the same is also true of Lemmy?

    Especially in the past, like when Lemmy at first hard-coded a slur word filter (in English no less), and in response Nutomic told people that... well, read for yourself:

    If you dont like it, fork it. Stop bothering us about it, we will never fully remove the slur filter.

    (Though they later relented.)

    PieFed is not perfectly administered (Rimu admitted this, and stepped back from being the sole leader of the project), and neither is Lemmy. Both are imperfect software tools, both offered as FOSS. Yay - we all win with that philosophy!!

    At the end of the day though, if someone is relying upon a free instance service, then it is up to those instance admins to decide their policies, while your only choice is which one you will be beholden to. This too is not different from how Lemmy works, though one difference is in how extremely FAST PieFed develops new features, and also in how responsive the devs are. I don't blame anyone for choosing not to move, but objectively speaking I don't see Lemmy passing any purity tests more often than PieFed - especially given how it is way easier to install a personal PieFed instance than a Lemmy one.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    As most users (myself included) would rather join an established instance than spin up their own, ultimately I think whichever platform has the least friction for migrating Redditors is best.

    Different people might prefer one or the other for different reasons, so as long as both can coexist and hopefully gradually adopt feature parity, the main focus should be growing the Threadiverse as a whole at the expense of Reddit.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    They will never reach feature parity.

    Redditors, who are primarily USA Christian centrists, will never join someplace where extremists are constantly calling for Luigi-ing everyone in any Western civilizations.

    Try it: make an account on lemmy.ml and use it for a day, and make an account on a PieFed instance and do the same. The feature differences are enormous - as too are those that you do not readily see, such as the fact that moderator reports actually federate on one of those two platforms but not the other (tbf they will eventually in an upcoming release).

    You will be pleasantly surprised at the outcome if do this experiment.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    I block Lemmy.ml, so I wouldn't create an account on there anyhow. While I think most new users would be better suited on an instance that defederates from Lemmygrad and Hexbear, the substantial userbase of lemmy.ml makes it better to block it instead so that its users can still interact in non-.ml communities and avoid splintering the Threadiverse needlessly.

    In any case, what's most important is not focusing on what makes Lemmy, Piefed, and Mbin better or worse than each other, but how to make them all collectively better and make every effort to recruit as many new users from Reddit as possible. Most Redditors won't join, but even 0.01% of them doing so (44,380 users) would double the size of the Threadiverse.

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