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Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate (www.vice.com)
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[–] 125 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Well, largest this week. And

Yeah, $800 isn’t a small chunk of change, but for a hard drive of this capacity, it’s monumentally cheap.

Nah, a 24TB is $300 and some 20TB's are even lower $ per TB.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I paid $600+ for a 24 TB drive, tax free. I feel robbed. Although I'm glad not to shop at Newegg.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yes, fuck Newegg (and amazon too). I've been using B&H for disks and I have no complaints about them. They have the Seagate Ironwolf Pro 24TB at $479 currently, but last week it was on sale for $419. (I only look at 5yr warranty disks.)

    I was not in a position to take advantage as I've already made my disk purchase this go around, so I'll wait for the next deep discount to hit if it is timely.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I hate amazon but haven't been following stuff about newegg and have been buying from them now and then. No probs so far but yeah, B&H is also good. Also centralcomputer.com if you are in the SF bay area. Actual stores.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Newegg was the nerd's paradise 10+ years ago. I would spend thousands each year on my homelab back then. They had great customer service and bent over backwards for them. Then they got bought out and squeezed and passed that squeeze right down to the customers. Accusing customers of damaging parts, etc. Lots of slimeball stuff. They also wanted to be like amazon, so they started selling beads, blenders and other assorted garbage alongside tech gear.

    After a couple of minor incidents with them I saw the writing on the wall and went to amazon who were somewhat okay then. Once amazon started getting bad, I turned to B&H and fleaBay. I don't buy as much electronic stuff as I used to, but when I do these two are working....so far.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What is B&H?

    I've recently bought a series of 24TB drives from both Amazon and Newegg. Each one I got was either DOA or shortly thereafter. I just gave up but I would love to have a better source.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Omg I really have been out of the loop. I originally filled my 8 bay NAS with 6tb drives starting back in 2018. Once they would fill, i added another. 3 years ago, I finally ran out of space and started swapping out the 6tb for 10tb. Due to how it works, I needed to do 2 before I saw any additional space. I think i have 3 or 4 now, and the last one was 2 years ago. They did cost around $250 at the time, and I think i got 1 for just over $200. The fact that I can more than double that for only $300 is crazy news to me. Guess I am going to stop buying 10tb now. The only part that sucks is having to get 2 up front...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

    I got some 16TB drives recently for around $200 each, though they were manufacturer recertified. Usually a recertified drive will save you 20-40%. Shipping can be a fortune though.

    EDIT: I used manufacturer recertified, not refurbished drives.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Refurbished drives sound scary. Any data to point towards that not being a problem?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I would absolutely not use refurbs personally. As part of the refurb process they wipe the SMART data which means you have zero power-on hours listed, zero errors, rewrite-count, etc - absolutely no idea what their previous life was.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you've got a RAID array with 1 or 2 parity then manufacturer recertified drives are fine; those are typically drives that just aged out before being deployed, or were traded in when a large array upgraded.

    If you're really paranoid you should be mixing mfg dates anyway, so keep some factory new and then add the recerts so the drive pools have a healthy split.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yep staggering manufacturing dates is a good suggestion. I do it but it does make purchasing during sales periods to get good prices harder. Better than losing multiple drives at once, but RAID needs a backup anyway and nobody should skip that step.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I mean a backup of a RAID pool is likely just another RAID pool (ideally off-site) – maybe a tape library if you've got considerable cash.

    Point is that mfg refurbs are basically fine, just be responsible, if your backup pool runs infrequently then that's a good candidate for more white label drives.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    As mentioned by another user, all drives fail, it's a matter of when, not if. Which is why you should always use RAID arrangement with at least one redundant drive and/or have full backups.

    Ultimately, it's a money game. If you save 30% on a recertified drive and it has 20% less total life than a new one, you're winning.

    Here's where I got some.

    https://serverpartdeals.com/collections/manufacturer-recertified-drives

    I looked around a bit, and either search engines suck nowadays (possibly true regardless) or there are no independent studies comparing certified and new drives.

    All you get mostly opinion pieces or promises by resellers that actually, their products are good. Clearly no conflict of interest there. /s

    The best I could find was this, but that's not amazing either.

    What I do is look at backblaze's drive stats for their new drives, find a model that has a good amount of data and low failure rate, then get a recertified one and hope their recertification process is good and I don't get a lemon.

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