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‘It’s a big mistake’: Israelis feel betrayed and angry after Iran peace deal (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (27 children)

Where you conflicted when two Nazi states destroyed much more than $300bn and killed a lot of civilians including children in an illegal offensive war, though?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago* (26 children)

    Are you referring to when the USSR and Nazi Germany invaded poland together, or...?

    Jokes aside I think Trump is an incompetent buffoon who has only helped the IRGC hold power. The smart play would have been arming and empowering the rebels with food and medical supplies.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Fuck off zionazi

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Compelling counterargument, let's see if it works.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (10 children)

    He blame palestinians and iran for the genocide israel is doing. He is a zionazi and he advocate for a civil war

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Israel's many crimes, which should be immediately stopped, do not forgive Iran's.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    Which part of the genocide convention can be used to say Iran and hamas are responsible for the genocide that Israel is comiting with the usa and the west weapons and money?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

    Article III

    The following acts shall be punishable:

    (a) Genocide;
    (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; ​
    (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
    (d) Attempt to commit genocide;
    (e) Complicity in genocide.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    When did iran do this to Gaza?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    On 7 October 2023, the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian nationalist Islamist political organization Hamas, initiated a sudden attack on Israel from the Gaza Strip. As part of the attack, 378 people (344 civilians and 34 security personnel) were killed and many more wounded at the Supernova Sukkot Gathering, an open-air music festival during the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret near kibbutz Re'im. Hamas also took 44 people hostage, and men and women were reportedly subject to sexual and gender-based violence. Some 20 of the attackers were also killed by Israeli security forces in the area of the festival.

    Now obviously the Israelis are in the wrong for literal genocide but if you think for a single fucking second that Iran, who acted as a proxy for Chinese and Russian weapons to reach Hamas' hands, get to walk away scot free then you're an idiot.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Again what art of the genocide convention prove iran complicity with the genocide in Gaza?

    Do you condemn the west sending weapons to israel for decades to maintain settler colonialism and killing kids and other palestinian for 78 goddamn year. Should the west be held accountable in the same way as Iran?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So you believe its Iran's fault that Israel is committing genocide? That was the question and you didn't address it.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I think it is Israel's fault and I think Iran helped them.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Oh god this argument.

    But but hamas is bad, they made us commit genocide against Palestine, we had no choice but to restrict water, food and medical supplies while bombing children because Hamas... Iran is actually at fault too you know.

    Fuck off with this whataboutism. Israel is evil and pointing to Iran serves no purpose but to muddy the waters in Israel's favour.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Because that never went horribly wrong before, right ?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Indeed, didn't the Orange even sent Kurds the weapons for Iran resistance only for Kurds to keep them?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I believe that was also after the kurds got betrayed a few times too.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (6 children)

    It couldn't go worse than continued IRGC rule.

    A while back Tankie complained to me about taking Ghadafi out (which is kind of the same problematic tactic of not supporting a resistance capable of replacing them) because now Libya is stuck an anarchy with human slavery...

    But the thing is, Ghadafi started the human slavery trade in Libya.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Couldn't go worse? Pinochet, Branco and all the other dictatorships the US put in place would like a word. America helped the Mujahedeen, which led to the Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS for fuck's sake. They are magnitudes worse than the Islamic Republic, it's not even close.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Yes, and? I can't see this as anything other than a defense of the IRGC?

    It's like "we have dictatorship, which kills hundreds of thousands, yes, but other dictator could be worse you know?"

    Like bro

    Wut

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Your point was that it can't get worse than the Islamic Republic, and I provided examples on how it can actually get worse ?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    "Islamic Republic" oh please, the Islamic Revokutionary Guard Corps are haram 7 days a week and theres not a fucking trace of a Republic burried anywhere in there.

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