▲ 1101 ▼ ‘You Will Not Speak on Flock Tonight’: County Commissioner Refuses to Let Residents Opposing Flock Speak at Meeting (www.404media.co) submitted 4 months ago by malloc@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 131 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 224 points 4 months ago (17 children) Voters have a depressingly short memory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) I'm imagining the most wealthy (who think they know what's best for the world, like P.T.) would say something eerily similar to what you are saying. The very rich have access to all of the information. One can't expect people who face significant barriers to higher education (and other means of informing themselves) to be on the level of experts, the educated and informed, or the very rich. Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? Partisan news media seems like the likely culprit. A broken political system posing as democracy could be another factor to consider. Opaque algorithms that put people into information bubbles (with the intention to make them addicted and as uninformed/reactionary as possible) are definitely a major factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? I’m just thinking how for most of history, humanity put these people on a pedestal and let them get away with a lot (through religion, in most cases I think). I think your culprits are accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* Humanity's leaders reflect the rot within. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I wasn't making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting. I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have. How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I've been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) family guy episode about lois campaign for mayor basically sums about the low, uniformed voters. all she needs to utter was a few words, and keep reminding people of a past incident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 4 months ago (4 children) hm this name I heard before, this one I don't know. I'll just vote for the same person. or not vote at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children) The number of people who vote by the top name is higher than you expect. Last name start with a B and your opponent's last is a T.... you're getting a head start just because of that alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago If I dont know any of the candidates, I vote against the declared republican by voting for the declared Democrat. If a republican is running unopposed, I write in Barack Obama. I was a swing voter before Donald Trump became president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Most ballots randomize the order for that reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago also they word the propositions in such a way to think you are either supporting or against it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago He could also run unopposed and just win by default permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) I'm imagining the most wealthy (who think they know what's best for the world, like P.T.) would say something eerily similar to what you are saying. The very rich have access to all of the information. One can't expect people who face significant barriers to higher education (and other means of informing themselves) to be on the level of experts, the educated and informed, or the very rich. Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? Partisan news media seems like the likely culprit. A broken political system posing as democracy could be another factor to consider. Opaque algorithms that put people into information bubbles (with the intention to make them addicted and as uninformed/reactionary as possible) are definitely a major factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? I’m just thinking how for most of history, humanity put these people on a pedestal and let them get away with a lot (through religion, in most cases I think). I think your culprits are accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* Humanity's leaders reflect the rot within. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I wasn't making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting. I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have. How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I've been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) family guy episode about lois campaign for mayor basically sums about the low, uniformed voters. all she needs to utter was a few words, and keep reminding people of a past incident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children) I'm imagining the most wealthy (who think they know what's best for the world, like P.T.) would say something eerily similar to what you are saying. The very rich have access to all of the information. One can't expect people who face significant barriers to higher education (and other means of informing themselves) to be on the level of experts, the educated and informed, or the very rich. Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? Partisan news media seems like the likely culprit. A broken political system posing as democracy could be another factor to consider. Opaque algorithms that put people into information bubbles (with the intention to make them addicted and as uninformed/reactionary as possible) are definitely a major factor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? I’m just thinking how for most of history, humanity put these people on a pedestal and let them get away with a lot (through religion, in most cases I think). I think your culprits are accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* Humanity's leaders reflect the rot within. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Why are people against experts, the educated, and the informed? I’m just thinking how for most of history, humanity put these people on a pedestal and let them get away with a lot (through religion, in most cases I think). I think your culprits are accurate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* Humanity's leaders reflect the rot within. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* Humanity's leaders reflect the rot within. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (3 children) https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I wasn't making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting. I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have. How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I've been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] cattywampus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I wasn't making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting. I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have. How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I've been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago (1 child) I wasn't making a political point with the video, but your points are interesting. I agree that, as far as I understand it right now, body-reviewed policies are the democracy we should have. How about also requiring someone to have experience or a degree in a specific field to vote on specific issues? For example, I've been working in tech for a decade, I should be able to vote on technology policies, but not on medical policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) family guy episode about lois campaign for mayor basically sums about the low, uniformed voters. all she needs to utter was a few words, and keep reminding people of a past incident. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 4 months ago (4 children) hm this name I heard before, this one I don't know. I'll just vote for the same person. or not vote at all permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children) The number of people who vote by the top name is higher than you expect. Last name start with a B and your opponent's last is a T.... you're getting a head start just because of that alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago If I dont know any of the candidates, I vote against the declared republican by voting for the declared Democrat. If a republican is running unopposed, I write in Barack Obama. I was a swing voter before Donald Trump became president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Most ballots randomize the order for that reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago also they word the propositions in such a way to think you are either supporting or against it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children) The number of people who vote by the top name is higher than you expect. Last name start with a B and your opponent's last is a T.... you're getting a head start just because of that alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago If I dont know any of the candidates, I vote against the declared republican by voting for the declared Democrat. If a republican is running unopposed, I write in Barack Obama. I was a swing voter before Donald Trump became president. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Most ballots randomize the order for that reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago also they word the propositions in such a way to think you are either supporting or against it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago If I dont know any of the candidates, I vote against the declared republican by voting for the declared Democrat. If a republican is running unopposed, I write in Barack Obama. I was a swing voter before Donald Trump became president. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Most ballots randomize the order for that reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago also they word the propositions in such a way to think you are either supporting or against it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago also they word the propositions in such a way to think you are either supporting or against it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 point 4 months ago He could also run unopposed and just win by default permalink fedilink source parent