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[–] 62 points 5 months ago (20 children)

People defending this as "those are lighning bolts, not everyone knows it's nazi imagery" are american, right?

Like, everyone in Europe knows this is strictly and unmistakably nazi imagery, especially in Poland. There is no wiggle room for not knowing; that's not even an excuse GOG themselves are trying to make, because if they tried to use that excuse then literally no one with the ability to read it in Europe would be uneducated enough to fall for it.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    People defending this as “those are lighning bolts, not everyone knows it’s nazi imagery” are american, right?

    Nah, they know what they are. They're trying to a) downplay the symbol's significance and normalize displaying it and b) get a "snowflake got triggered by lightning bolts" own out of it.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    I'm sure there are some fash doing this, but a lot of comments here seem extremely naive and forgiving. And they come from lib instances, which I have grievances with, just not regarding dogwhistling & normalizing fascism (unless it comes out of UA...)

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  • [+] -27 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    It was used in Poland as a symbol of feminism when women protested against criminalization of abortion.

    This is why it became nazi imagery, declared and sanctioned by polish right-wing government because they needed an excuse to stop the movement.

    You from america, friend?

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    I'm gonna need some proof of this. I wonder why a German, designing a sign for the German members of the SS in 1929 (10 years before Germany invaded Poland), would choose a sign with the purpose of harming a Polish feminist/pro-abortion movement.

    It makes no sense and I can't find any sources saying anything like that at all.

    So cough up some sources. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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  • [+] -13 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    https://natemat.pl/324721,symbol-czerwonej-blyskawicy-co-oznacza-czerwony-piorun-na-strajku-kobiet

    Article is in Polish, but I thing google translate or DeepL should work for you to get the gist. They picked this symbol as "lightning"

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (3 children)

    One lightning bolt by itself is a very different meaning to 2 right next to each other.

    Especially so when next to a Black Sun

    Double lightning bolt is unmistakably a nazi symbol.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yeah, but also the red lightning bolt sign of the polish pro-abortion movement was introduced in 2016. The SS sign with the sigrune was introduced in 1929.

    If nazis had time travel, how did they manage to screw their war effort up so badly? They must have been even worse tacticians than we thought!

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Dude, you got the timeline completely wrong: https://www.obieg.pl/en/210-the-red-lightning-of-all-poland-women-s-strike-forwards-and-backwards

    The red lightning sign as part of the polish pro-abortion movement came into existence in 2016! A whopping 87 years AFTER the Nazis created the SS sign.

    If the Nazis made the sign to discredit poland's pro-abortion movement, they would have needed time travel to do so.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    Idk about the polish feminist movement, but, respectfully, what the fuck are you on about

    (Polish feminist lightning bolt I could find with 5s of research, they seem to do a pretty good job at differentiating their logo by having a single bolt with a different shape that is red and black instead of black and white. Red and black are usually associated with anti fascism btw)

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    What are you on about? Red and black anti fascism? Like, I dunno, people who wore those uniforms?

    Yes, I am talking about this symbol. And while on the image you picked it clearly looks more like lightning, the narrower version was used too. And the idea that "SS" and "S" is the very same thing is just bonkers. All the alphabet would be symbols of hate by now.

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    Oh god.

    So swastika (a hindu symbol) got taken by nazis and now nazi colours are taken by anti-nazis.

    And everyone still thinks they know definitely what specific symbol/colour/letter symbolizes?

    I'm giving up. I'm never correcting anyone on nazis ever again. If someone tells me that rainbow was used by hitler-lovers, I will just accept it as possible.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Just shut up, please. Your stupidity and lack of even basic knowledge is exhausting.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Front

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