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[–] 1 point 5 months ago (10 children)

I guess you deliberately want to misunderstand me. And I don't even get why.

Love is something rare, where two souls need find each other.

Sex, I could go to the next brothel and have it 10 times a day. Or go on tinder and let golddiggers have it. If you're a decently attractive woman, you'll get it for free on tinder in 5 minutes. Or in the next bar or wherever. I can also walk around asking anyone until I'm lucky.

So that's a simple COULD. Love you cannot simply get.

Maybe my point was badly phrased, I dunno. But insulting you surely wasn't my goal.

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    Brothels are illegal in my country.

    Wow, in what horrible dark age country do you live? This is the oldest trade on earth, and those are incredibly helpful and needed in a society.

    all your other points

    You really don't get it. It has nothing to do with my life, my experiences or whatever. It's just the simple logic that getting just sex is ultimately easier than getting love. It might be harder (no pun intended) depending on your laws, your own morals or your net-worth, but still way easier to find someone that loves you.

    The external factors aren't important. You might be ugly and poor and whatever, which would make tinder (or whatever people use nowadays) impossible. But even more difficult would finding love be. Of course one shouldn't rape, obviously in a civilized society, but one still TECHNICALLY could. But there's nothing in the world you could do to make someone love you, no matter how willing you're to do anything.

    Again, this is absolutely not about personal experience, and has nothing to do with that.

    By contrast I live in a blessed world of readily available affection from my friends (who I chose), surrounded by family that love me

    That is not really the same kind of love you're talking about. Important too, but totally different. I, for example, have no family (except my wife) and there's nothing I could do to get one.

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    Repeating myself here, but just because you seem to struggle with an absolute and universal fact, because you project yourself personally into a, as you weirdly stated, doesn't make it less valid.

    And why do keep sticking to rape. It's one of many possibilities to get laid. By money, by time and effort, by accident, luck or even forced means. Just because YOU couldn't AND also live in some theocratic hellhole where one couldn't even buy it, doesn't mean the guy next door couldn't. Or the majority of the world. Some rare exceptions where multiple points combine to a negative, does not invalidate a general rule. The larger part of a bell-curve sure can, in whatever way. Easier for some, harder for others, but possible. Otherwise I would wonder why earth is so crowded with us humans.

    Finding real romantic love though. Can't buy it. And it's also that one single thing that gets worse the more money you have. Be rich, end up alone. Or fake being poor until you do. Also, for the vast majority of the world, this commodity is ultimately harder to find.

    BTW, here health insurance even pays for a hooker for disabled people, should they be unable otherwise to find sex. Regularly. At it is a mental health issue. And there are even specially hired prostitutes of both sexes just for that. And if you're too poor, then state pays for insurance and still get the hookers. So not even poor, ugly, disabled and being tiny would stop you. Love though, probably chances converge to zero.

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    And yet again you talk about you and me, while I simply made a point about the rarity of two commoditites compared. It doesn't matter at all if I'm "brad Pitt" or not. It alters my personal abilities and won't change the point. And you still totally fail to grasp the point at all. Having the options to find sex "whenever and whereever" doesn't mean you get laid three times day. You COULD be laid. Or maybe not you because your country hates humans, but that is the exception in civilized worlds. Given enough money you probably also could, as laws are made for the poor.

    Also I never ever said love is non-existant. It's just nowhere being easier to find than sex as there is no option to buy or otherwise squire it without the other person actually feeling the same. Two people feeling the same for each other is ultimately more rare then two people just finding each other attractive enough to fuck.

    It's so simple. From love, sex will most likely always follow. From sex, love COULD follow.

    You can dance around my or your personal ability likeever you want, it doesn't change the facts. Just because logical arguments don't fit into your personal experience, won't change them.

    Try visiting some of our train stations. You'll have to actually fight off people offering you a blowjob for 5 bucks. Even broke as fuck you could afford that. If one would be inclined to exploit drug junkies.

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    I'm getting tired of just repeating my points over and over, if you just want me to acknowledge our life is different. I also probably like different colors that you do. Great. That's settled. This is of such marginal importance to my initial point.

    Maybe you struggle with abstractions and logic or I just have to accept that my point is invalid because your life isn't like mine. If that makes you happy, so be it.

    I truly wish you'd find romantic love and also get laid.

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    Ad hominem isn't a strong debating tactic in my view

    No ad hominem, just an obvious observation you demonstrated solidly again with that reply. And if you really took that ad hominem, then so were lots of assumptions about my "lavish rich fancy lifestyle" or "one romantic, many sexual partners". I didn't bring me, personally, at all into this argument.

    or you're playing the ad hominem again.

    Nope, I wouldn't know you enough to form a dislike to attack you personally, just because I am out of actual arguments. It was honestly meant. Why should I wish you being romantically ignored by life.

    Despite that, I would now repeat my same points again, only for them to get ignored, and I really don't like that. I drown in sparetime but it's still too precious to waste it on a lost cause. No offense meant, it's just fruitless to continue this.

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