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[–] 65 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Yeah, they are thinking of 2000s xbox live chat. It's been a while since then.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    yah you don't find a lot of lobbys like 'good old' xbox cod lobbys like that anymore. league of legends i believe currently still holds the crown for current day toxic lobbys

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago

    Not really, I'm thinking of literal unapologetic nazis on Steam, gamergate chuds on Twitter, incels on Reddit, mykittens on Discord and so on and so forth. Competitive games suffer from bigotry the most, but there's still plenty of casual "you aren't a real gamer if all you play is Sims/Stardew/Animal Crossing" aimed primarily at women, too. And of course it's currently the wave of nick fuentes type stains that freak out over anything even remotely "woke" that keeps the shitshow going, the GoW situation literally just took place.

    However I do think that all of the above is strongly amplified by the outrage content farms, so I can believe when "The authors suggest that hostility might be driven by a vocal minority of players rather than the general gaming population. It is also possible that certain specific online communities reinforce exclusionary behavior, even if the average gamer holds progressive views."

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I still see calls for eliminating minorities in Steam forums, and not very subtle ones at that.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    That's one place normal people know to avoid and is not representative of the whole.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago*

    I haven't used Steam Community Forums for a few years, but when I did, it really depended on the game (and I'm not the type to be playing the games where there those behaviours would become prominent). As someone who mostly plays indie games, I found the odd racist post where it was clear they were trying to find like-minded people and nobody would bite. Also, if I reported something for any reason, they typically took care of it within 24 hours at the most and I never had a case where I reported something get rejected.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah about the forums...
    The only reason you actually choose to go there is either for fixing a game bug or a mod.
    You don't go there to discuss the game.
    The only other topics there are either horny or toxic.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    This study isn't saying that xbox live users today are better than xbox live users 20 years ago. They may actually be worse. All they say is that xbox live users today hold more inclusive beliefs than the general public today. The community could still be more toxic than the general public, despite those beliefs. And the general public could have become worse over the last 20 years.

    I think games these days don't select for anything in particular. It's a giant space that caters to every taste. That gamers are more inclusive than the general public could have any of a million reasons, but I think it's easier to look at non-gamers than try to find any commonalities among all gamers

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