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California Passes Backdoor Bill to Control the 3D Printing Hobby and Spy on Small Designers, Prototypers, and Hobbyists (www.techspot.com)
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This first bill allows the state of California to regulate and oversee all 3D prints in the name of public safety.

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[–] 45 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Everytown for Gun Safety says recoveries of 3D-printed crime guns across 20 cities have risen nearly 1,000% over the past five years,

So... They found a total of ten 3d printed guns in the last 5 years?

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  • [–] 30 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    325 are 3D out of 350,000 guns found in CA in connection to a crime in 2024, according to random assholes on reddit.

    This is a pretty dumb thing to pass legislation on considering it's still VERY easy to buy a gun even in CA, another method of getting a gun isn't making it easier in any real sense.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Now to be totally fair, 325 is 325 more than 0, which would be the ideal number of 3d printed guns used in crime... But also, how many of those 3d printed gun users had access to a different gun and simply opted for the 3d printed one? I get the feeling it was somewhere around 325 of them

    This is all ignoring the fact that I'm using a very liberal definition of the phrase "3d printed gun." I doubt anyone is using Songbirds for armed robberies lmao

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    3d printing isnt shit except for ease of use. I can make a 12 gage slam fire shotgun in a couple hours with maybe $100 on a home depot or Lowes gift card. As a machinist and welder, I can make a whole lot more than that.

    On the one hand, its moronic to think that limiting 3D printing will in any way affect ease of access to firearms. On the other hand, literally anything making it harder for people to kill or harm each other is probably for the best in the long run.

    A comedian I watched a while back had a bit about if the government really wanted to stop gun violence, they'd put a massive tax on ready made ammunition. You really gotta hate a bitch to spend $5k on a bullet to kill them. Obviously this doesnt take into account making your own ammo, but the point stands.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Add to that the fact that some gun parts are not printable and have to be made out of metal. Printing an entire firearm on a $500 3D printer is possible but that gun will be good enough for 1 bullet, and probably will hurt shooter at that.

    Also, if inmates can make a handgun out of whatever they have access at prison - 3d printing is the afterthought. Some parts can be bought in a department store, the others can be ordered online as a replacement parts. If someone really wants to make a gun themselves, 3D printing ban wont stop them.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    and to be clear to naive: you can't actually 3D print a gun. You can make parts that can be smithed together with metal parts to make a working gun. There are some fully plastic designs, but no way would I shoot those twice.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    with metal parts to make a working gun.

    That's always convention "forgotten" in all these breathless "think of the children" arguments.

    You can't fully 3-d print a working gun that isn't as dangerous to the user as it is to the target.

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