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[–] 160 points 5 months ago (36 children)

You shouldn't expect someone to care about you just because you give them power. You should give power to people who care about you!

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  • [+] -56 points 5 months ago* (26 children)

    You should give power to people who care about you!

    That only leaves the Green Party, though.

    And yeah, we learned that lesson with Obama's presidency. The man had a supermajority for a while and all he did was make fascism worse and health care more expensive.

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  • [–] 50 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Mind-blowing how people have forgotten the time before the ACA, which limited insurer excess profit and forbid denial due to pre-existing conditions

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    Yeah, now it's just so expensive I avoid treatment altogether and therefore can't get denied.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (15 children)

    It for sure sucks now! Lieberman killed the public option and things have only gotten worse since then as we haven't taken on the usury of insurance, PE hospitals, and pharma, but the ACA was a step in the right direction that's been continuously sabotaged ever since it was implemented

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  • [+] -9 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    but the ACA was a step in the right direction

    The ACA was a turd with some rhetorical polish. That's it, and anyone seeking health care in this country knows it.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Still waiting on your dear leader's 'concept of plan'.

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  • [–] -3 points 5 months ago* (11 children)

    Pretty lazy response.

    I'm not a Donald supporter. I'm just also unwilling to pretend that a regressive health care system is a good thing because it came from the Blue MAGA instead of the Red MAGA, especially considering Obama could have (and should have) done better. .

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

    Lol, you sure have a lot of opinions. What part about it is 'lazy'?

    Edit: What is your plan? Enlighten us wise one.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    The lazy bit was to jump to Trump supporter after hearing criticism of party.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    Is it any more 'lazy' than this person jumping straight to Obama as the responsible 'party 'when the ACA is mentioned?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (4 children)

    For better or worse it was his flagship legislation.

    I don't really care though, it isn't a laziness competition.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    For better or worse it was his flagship legislation.

    Here's a refresher for you on which branch does what. (Hint: the President is the Executive branch, and Congress is the Legislative branch).

    USA.gov - Branches of Government

    And here's more about the ACA, including who introduced it to Congress...I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Obama.

    Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia

    I understand it is commonly referred to as one of his flagship policies, but my point is that he is one person in a much larger process. Do you disagree?

    I don't really care though, it isn't a laziness competition.

    No competition, I was asking what the difference between the two were. You seemed to have no problem stating your opinion when the question was directed at someone else, so I wanted to give you a platform to continue with your thoughts, feelings, and opinions on that subject to expand the discussion. But like you said, 'I don't really care though'.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    I remember having these kinds of arguments in 2015.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago*

    No argument, just seeking clarification. I put a mirror to the DDRMobOfSolo's opinion, you jumped in the conversation to defend, I asked a few clarifying questions, you back peddled and ruminated on past discussions from 10+ years ago, but you never answered any of the questions presented. Gold star for you bud.

    At this point, if you do think of any answers or a rebuttle, keep it to yourself for another 10+ years.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    I’m not a Donald supporter.

    You're every bit as intelligent as one. You're Blue MAGA, you fucking idiot.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    I'm voting blue regardless, and I hope that the person you're responding to probably will as well. I liked Obama's approach, his demeanor, but not everything that he did. Despite that, I voted for him twice.

    MAGA, pretty famously now, has no principles. They require loyalty to trump despite any policy flip flops.

    His not being a fan of something Obama did because he thinks Obama should have known and done better is somehow following a MAGA playbook?

    I know where you're coming from. I'm terrified that Putin's goon squad will somehow wreck any chance of recovery in November. But I doubt I'll stop being critical of the Democratic leadership. Instead of having the approach "view blue despite all these internal party issues" we should be trying "vote blue and get involved to help us fix these issues."

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I'm voting blue regardless, and I hope that the person you're responding to probably will as well.

    This is an ignorant approach. Do your homework, think for yourself, and vote based on the candidate(s), not solely party affiliation.

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  • [+] -44 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    So I shouldn't vote for anyone. Got it.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly if that's what your takeaway is, the world would be a better place if you didn't vote. Moron.

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