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[โ€“] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Honestly again I'm not interested in debating the point at large even if I disagree completely you should feel free to continue to believe what you do I just think you should use quotes that back up what you're saying as opposed to ones that are entirely about communist parties running their own candidates as a means of agitation and absolutely 100% not about voting for the kautskyites or reactionaries that might be nicer managers.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    I think you misunderstand my point in quoting Lenin. I support my decision based on my own reasoning. Yes, I extend Lenin's argument to encompass actions that suit the class-consciousness of the American masses, but the larger point of quoting Lenin is just to show that disparaging anti-electoralism has significant precedent on the left. Banning it is bad policy.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    And again Leninist style electoralism and what you're advocating are 2 entirely different things even if both are technically electoralism and as far as I'm aware only what you're advocating for and advocating for electoralism as a means to make meaningful change is what people take issue with.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago (3 children)

    what you're advocating for and advocating for electoralism as a means to make meaningful change

    Two completely different things. Not even remotely related, except for the mechanism of voting. The problem is people keep trying to treat them like the same thing.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Again I'm not treating them as the same thing hence the "and". They are 2 separate kinds of/views on electoralism that many see as harmful in comparison to the Leninist view.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    You're treating them both as harmful. I agree that one is, but the other very much is not.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 5 months ago

    the other very much is not.

    Depends on who you ask. I think that many of the people affected by Graham Totenkopf Planters "fun adventure" or Copmala Holocaust Harris abhorrent history etc. might disagree with enabling this behaviour as acceptable in any way even if it is the "lesser evil" as not being harmful.

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