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[–] 66 points 6 months ago (10 children)

The Greeks invented a form of democracy that they could rationalize co-existing with slavery. That's what the Founders venerated. That's what they emulated. That's the model of government we have inherited.

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    not only slavery but patriarchy too. Women too were excluded

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think that was a Greek invention either. I'd imagine men have been telling women that only men get to make the big decisions for as long as language has existed.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    The Greeks invented a form of democracy that they could rationalize co-existing with slavery.

    "patriarchy too" was for the second part ☞

    ❎ the Greeks invented patriarchy
    ✅ they could rationalize co-existing with patriarchy

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Also the part where they're definitely not gay but definitely fucking boys.

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    The joke of the Bronze Age Mediterranean civilization was that being around girls in any capacity was what made you "gay".

    I think there's even some ancient literature making fun of a famous Greek orator for kissing his wife.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Ah that makes sense, only rich people could vote in Greece, and that's how democracy was reborn anyways.

    The definition of "everyone has a say" gets a bit sketchy when you think about it.

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