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Update: anarchist.nexus has been refederated (lemmy.world)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world
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Due to a (now former) admin of the instance anarchist.nexus calling for a member of our team, as well as anyone else they call a zionist, to be murdered, the instance has been defederated.

We're currently discussing how we will proceed with this situation and whether it will affect lemmy.dbzer0.com, which is mostly run by the same admin team, notably excluding the person who used to be on the anarchist.nexus admin team.

We will share further updates once we have them.

Update 2026-04-22 23:25 UTC: anarchist.nexus federation has been reactivated.

We are still discussing this matter, but there is currently no point in keeping anarchist.nexus defederated while lemmy.dbzer0.com is federated.

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[+] -23 points 6 months ago (25 children)

I'm sure you have references to us allowing people calling for others to be murdered to support your argument.

We don't support any murder, neither murder of zionists nor murder of anyone else.

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    Are sure you want people to start pulling that thread?

    It's been happily acceptable as long as not directed towards the wrong people.

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  • [+] -14 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    please go ahead and provide references

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  • [โ€“] 30 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/32806014

    https://lemmy.world/post/36621226

    https://lemmy.world/post/35918814

    https://lemmy.world/post/12468746/7942028

    https://lemmy.world/post/41560809/21534428

    https://lemmy.world/post/14235015/9346725

    https://lemmy.world/post/6550602/4346950

    https://lemmy.world/post/26565059/15562842

    https://lemmy.world/post/43799556/22449214

    https://lemmy.world/post/41560809/21534428

    https://lemmy.world/post/6550602/4346950

    https://lemmy.world/post/41307441/21430091 Calling for wars on other countries

    https://lemmy.world/comment/19773128 - you literally claiming to not know about "from river to the sea"

    https://lemmy.world/post/18857058

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48096338

    Making light of Israel pager terrorist attacks and implying more need do be killed https://lemmy.world/post/19923025/12436044

    Calling Russians orcs and describing how to kill them https://lemmy.world/post/26007806/15299902

    Oh and another zionist mod doing questionable things in defense of Israel: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49553295

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45247124

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36047491

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Impressive list

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I got bored. Would have more but kept it mostly to world and news comms ๐Ÿ˜‚.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I clicked on the very first one. It does not advocate violence or murder.

    I don't know what this list is supposed to be, but it's not the evidence it was labeled as.

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 6 months ago

    I clicked on a few more, a decent number of the links aren't really advocating for murder/violence at all.

    There was one link I clicked on that did lead to someone advocating for murder (Kokesh), I didn't recognize who it was and their name wasn't highlighted as an instance Admin.

    Looking at the modlog for that user, they have had a number of comments removed for advocating for murder/violence, so this is probably just a comment that slipped through the cracks.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    You sure you want people giving you proof, since you won't accept it anyway?

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  • [+] -20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    if you're not going to provide any references just say so instead of beating around the bush

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 6 months ago

    Then why don't you take your own advice?

    If you aren't going to provide any references on the behavior of dbzer0 administration and the reason for considering defederation with them (For the actions of a user of another instance who is no longer a moderator) then just say so instead of beating around the bush.

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  • [+] 6 points 6 months ago* (7 children)
    [removed by mod]
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  • [+] -19 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    please share where jordan is calling for people to be murdered.

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  • [โ€“] 26 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    It is quite interesting to me that the only thing you're responding to here is something that you think is a gotcha.

    Once again, Kap, I already did that work quite a while ago. You read it. You decided to do nothing about it. Need a reminder? Check your DMs on discord. We talked about this at fucking length. Your total lack of action on the situation was what led to me leaving lemmy.world, refusing to ever post on another community again at a top level, and have moved to another instance entirely.

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Right??

    Also for Jordan, not looking at the modlog

    https://lemmy.world/post/12513108/7978972

    https://lemmy.world/post/18470868/11713672

    This one cherry picking, but so did Kaplan "no one cares are 1940s" https://lemmy.world/post/11472248/7227437

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  • [+] -16 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    thank you for actually following up.

    https://lemmy.world/post/12513108/7978972
    https://lemmy.world/post/18470868/11713672

    These cases are not about murder, but death sentences following due process. While it's not exactly the same, it's still calling for violence, even if it's in a more civilized and more commonly accepted way. Murder generally refers to unlawful killings.

    I will take this to our team to discuss. Although I'm personally against death penalties, as I don't believe anyone can be trusted with this power as it will absolutely get abused and mistakes will be made, I think discussion surrounding death penalties in general should be allowed, provided there is due process involved. Discussion without referencing specific cases is also not easily possible. This is something that can be difficult to define, as for example Israel also claims there to be due process for the Palestinians they execute and lawfulness can often be quickly changed in favor of the acting regime.

    https://lemmy.world/post/11472248/7227437

    This is definitely a comment that could have been phrased a lot better, but I don't see how this could even remotely be considered a call for violence.

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 6 months ago

    please share where jordan is calling for people to be murdered.

    So literally what you asked for. Asking for the justice system to do it is still calling for a person to be murdered. Death penalty is just legal/state sponsored murder.

    Wait this you are discussing with them but not the defedederation???

    This is definitely a comment that could have been phrased a lot better, but I don't see how this could even remotely be considered a call for violence.

    I and most would consider it much worse than saying death to zionists, yet here we are.

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  • [+] -13 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    i just searched through our conversations for mentions of murder, kill, israel, zion or palest, and there is nothing relevant.

    you just claimed that jordan was calling for people to be murdered, so please provide references for this.

    i don't remember everything we've talked about and i'm not going to read through everything again, but you clearly seem to know what you're referring to, so that should be easy to find. i doubt that this exists in the first place, and if it does, it was likely acted on already.

    i'm fully aware that there are other issues you have with jordan, but since you brought up claims of calling for murder, let's focus on that.

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  • [โ€“] 15 points 6 months ago*

    No.

    You are not being given an opportunity to change the moment, narrative, or this conversation.

    The information was posted months ago. You read it all and made your decision. That conversation ended months ago when you made your decision. We are not talking about Jordan now, we're talking about the fact that you personally are going on a petty vendetta and attacking two instances due to the behavior of a user that is no longer an admin.

    But, again, it is really interesting how you're more willing to talk about Jordan now than you are about your own indefensible behavior. You are acting on something that happened days ago with zero consideration of any update since. You are in the wrong. Pay attention to every user here who has had input, respond to them and stop picking and choosing responses that you think you're going to be able to win. You will not.

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