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Everyone with wealth and power has been eyeing their incremental rollout with intense interest while trying to play it cool. (lemmy.ca)
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Ukrainian Forces Captured A Russian Position Using ONLY Unmanned Ground Robotic Systems

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[–] 0 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

This is not how warfare works, there is always a practical limit to how much force is worth concentrating of a particular type, you don't know what you are talking about. You keep telling me I should change my thinking based on projections you make where you assume infinite energy will be provided by datacenters or that it is easy to concentrate an infinite amount of drones together to attack the enemy without their being counters to that or inefficiencies inherent to that.

Just last week Ukraine shared a video of a single drone pilot destroying a russian Rubicon logistics hub for russian drones. One person destroying a concentration of many smaller drones is not an impossibility I don't know why you think it is. "Scaling that up" this strategy up is also less useful when you don't have the human intelligence work done to actually locate the target and bring together all the necessary operational elements to hit it.

AI is a useful pattern matching tool when the patterns don't change much, that is about it.

It is the humans you need to worry about not the AI.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 6 months ago* (5 children)

    Air burst rounds may take out 99.9%, but that still leaves a lot of damage occurring.

    This is literally how war is playing out right now. I can't take you seriously.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (4 children)

    Why are you obsessed with the fact that counter UAV solutions aren't 100% effective?

    Nothing is 100% effective?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly. And that's the entire point. If the human success rate is (just for example) 1 out of every 100, I only have so many pilots, so I have a capped number of successes. If I have AI pilots, even if they are only half as good as humans, I can now increase my total number of successes, since I have effectively an infinite number of pilots.

    That ability to bring more at once also opens more options. Overwhelming defenses may not be possible if you can only fly 1000 drones simultaneously due to quantity of pilots. Throw 10,000 AI drones at it, and a 99% attrition rate still gets you 100 drones on target.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You have done the pattern again of invoking an infinity with hand waving. 10,000 drones is an immense amount of money. If each of those drones cost $2000, a very reasonable price for a military attack drone, that is $20 million you just dropped on a single attack.

    $20 million is a serious amount of money, you can buy a whole lot of counter UAS systems for that amount of money, and those systems aren't a single use, disposable tool like the assault drones you dumped all of your money into.

    A shahed costs closer to ~$30,000 than $2000 so this point holds even more true for longer range flying bombs.

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