GalacticSushi comments on 2008 Hillary Clinton Says As President She Would Attack Iran At any state of Building nuclear weapons

[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 60 points 6 months ago (48 children)

Why are we still talking about shit that Hillary Clinton said nearly 20 years ago?

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 24 points 6 months ago (33 children)

Because the Republicans are going to get their asses handed to them during the next midterm elections.

Both Parties Are The Same rhetoric gets pumped out by the right, as a part of their broader voter suppression strategy.

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[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 13 points 6 months ago (32 children)

It is important to recognize which Democrats are Neoliberals or ruling elite like the Clintons.

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago* (31 children)

By jerking off about something Hillary said nearly 20 years ago?

Yes I'm sure we'll gain much insight from discussing how much we all hate the Clintons again.

Edit: that is a crazy instadownvote — sus

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -8 points 6 months ago (30 children)

Will you forgive trump crimes after he is out of office?

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago (29 children)

No, just like I won't be forgiving or forgetting your inability to debate in good faith.

If you think jerking yourself off over a widely hated woman is doing anything productive you're a muppet.

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -8 points 6 months ago (28 children)

Since you are the one who defend her. It is you who is jerking off to her.

I am discussing in good faith. I want to see your consistancy . You proved you are inconsistant

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[+] Jax@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago* (28 children)

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -8 points 6 months ago (27 children)

I am consistent, whether it is Hillary, Trump, or any other warmonger. I do not forget about their crimes and evil rhetoric once they are out of office.

Your comment is a joke, you’re illiterate and ragebaiting

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 9 points 6 months ago (26 children)

As I was saying, one of the components of a voter suppression campaign, is increased rhetoric of Both Sides Are The Same variety. The idea is to maximize cynicism. And the workrate should increase as the important election approaches.

You're merely engaging in, and providing an example of the tactic in real time.

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 6 months ago* (25 children)

Where did I said both parties are the same? Hillary support war on Iran, Trump support the war on Iran, they are the same in this specific issue but because you Americans are treating your parties as cults , you see everything as a sabotage campaign. Just grow up guys

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[+] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 4 points 6 months ago (25 children)

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -6 points 6 months ago (24 children)

Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

I identified a behavior, what it looks like, and then you did the thing with precision.

Like you just did again.

You are simply delusional and think someone watching this video will magically refuse to vote for some good democrats like AOC or Ro Khana .

Put another way, if the topic at hand was Trump is a very bad president, your singular goal would be to insert Sleepy Joe into the conversation as many times as humanly possible.

False. It is you who if I posted an old video of Trump defending wars you will praise me and kiss my forehead . If trump was a democrats you would get mad at me in the same way you are mad about this video or if I post the video of Trump accusing Biden of trying to start world war 3 , you would not ask me why did I post an few year old video

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 5 points 6 months ago (23 children)

I make a valid observation of voter disenfranchisement tactics, you verify same.

Check Proof: your word count

You're leaning into this as though your life depended on it.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (22 children)

You are making invalid bullshit. You are mad that i posted a video about a war monger. That's all because you are a delusional cultist. Funny how there is many post about people attacking aoc and you cultist are nowhere to be found but the politician how backed every single intervention make you all go crazy

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 7 points 6 months ago (21 children)

You are making invalis bullshit. You are mad that i posted a video about a war monger that's all because you are a dilusional cultist.

And you're doing heavy lifting for Donald Trump.

If you are unable to detect how things have been a smidge different for the planet since the Trump regime took power, then you're exactly the voice that Donald Trump wants to hear.

Know with confidence that you're working in unison with a billionaire-class funded campaign to supress the democrat voter turnout.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -5 points 6 months ago* (20 children)

And you're doing heavy lifting for Donald Trump.

You are dilusional. I talked bad abour Trump a lot more than you. You are mad thst I posted a post about a warmonger

Hilary would definitly be better for americans but as bad when it comes to Iran amd Gaza. Hilary may even have more competent admin that would allow israel and the usa cresting a failed state in Iran

Hilary is not funded by billionaire? You are dilusional

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 6 points 6 months ago (19 children)

Hilary would definitly be better for americans but as bad when it comes to Iran amd Gaza. Hilary may even have more competent admin that would allow israel and the usa cresting a failed state in Iran

I guess you're right. The speculative scenario you're imagining here sounds horrific.

Thankfully, we only have the reality Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth to deal with.

I can see how what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are up to currently, is absolutely eclipsed by the horrors of Hillary Clinton quotes from almost two decades ago.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -3 points 6 months ago (18 children)

Thankfully, we only have the reality Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth to deal with.

I can see how what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are up to currently, is absolutely eclipsed by the horrors of Hillary Clinton quotes from almost two decades ago.

And that's why I am vocal about trump attrocities. Also because american presidents got away with vietnam, afghsnistan, iraq, libya, syria and gaza , Trump will get away with his war crimes.

Like I said a million of time . I do not forget about warmongers , I will talk about Trump war crimes till I die

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 4 points 6 months ago (17 children)

Like I said a million of time . I do not forget about warmongers , I will talk about Trump war crimes till I die

Like I said, rhetoric of the Both Sides are the Same variety, as a major election approaches, is very, very helpful for Donald Trump.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 6 months ago (16 children)

You are discussing in very bad faith. You are too delusional if you believe that posting a video about Hillary's warmongering will make people not vote for a good candidate like AOC or Ro Khanna. Everybody knows each politician only represents themselves; Ro Khanna is not held accountable for something another Democrat says, for example.

How is Hillary threatening Iran for a lie she invented about an imaginary Iranian nuclear program not as bad as Trump telling the same lie to start a war?

There are certain users who call AOC a secret Zionist. Why didn't it bother you as much as a video about Hillary the warmonger, who backed up all American foreign intervention only to later pretend that it was a mistake?

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 4 points 6 months ago (15 children)

You are discussing in very bad faith. You are too delusional if you believe that posting a video about Hillary's warmongering

Hillary's warmongering is the specific phrase that you are attempting to repeat as much as humanly possible.

Once again, what is currently happening at the hands of Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, is absolutely uninteresting to you.

By the way, your antics are harmful to excellent Democrats like AOC.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children)

Hillary’s warmongering is the specific phrase that you are attempting to repeat as much as humanly possible.

Are you denying that she supported many American interventions resulting failed states and hundred thousands of death. when she was in position of power like in Libya? How calling her a war monger is not accurate

Once again, what is currently happening at the hands of Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, is absolutely uninteresting to you.

Once again I am vocal about it. You are turning a blind eye about it because you want to convince yourself that I am supporting Trump . That's what cultists does .

By the way, your antics are harmful to excellent Democrats like AOC.

By the way you blindly defending warmongers when they are democrats is currently what harm aoc.

How about addressing my points and questions for once. Why didn't it bother you when there was posts criticizing AOC?

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Tl;dr: one more repetition of Hillary is a warmonger, and a declaration of intent to repeat it.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (12 children)

I asked you to explain how she is not a warmonger. You refused. How is that not bad faith by you?

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I asked you to explain how she is not a warmonger. You refused. How is that not bad faith by you?

Your confusion is based on the idea that there is a debate happening.

As the midterm elections approach, you will ramp up rhetoric against high profile Democrats.

I'm describing a specific tactic, and you're executing on that tactic.

What you are doing is in keeping with what I'm claiming.

There is no need to address your concerns re: bad faith.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 6 months ago (10 children)

You didn't answer the question . How Hillary is not a warmonger ?

As the midterm elections approach, you will ramp up rhetoric against high profile Democrats. . I’m describing a specific tactic, and you’re executing on that tactic.

You have zero evidence that I am doing that

There is no need to address your concerns re: bad faith.

Bad faith is to not answers people questions, accuse people with no solid evidence. It is you who is doing it.

If you don't want to address my concerns just disengage

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Tl;dr:

Additional repetition of Hillary is a Warmonger.

You have zero evidence that I am doing that

See above summary. See your future comments history.

All consistent with my claim.

For example, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War prays using fake Bible verses from Pulp Fiction, in support of what he is selling as a holy War.

For normal people, the visceral response to Pete Hegseth trying to sell some Christian Nationalist bullshit, in conjunction with the President posting memes of himself as Christ, is to want to get them out of power quick fast and in a hurry.

But not you. You see the same reality and go: This calls for complaining about an old Democrat.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Additional repetition of Hillary is a Warmonger.

As long as you don't an good argument disproving my point, I will keep repeating it

See above summary. See your future comments history.

Still waiting for the proofs

For example, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War prays using fake Bible verses from Pulp Fiction, in support of what he is selling as a holy War.

Did I ever defended him? I know Pete is a nazi and war mongers and he is also incompetent. I still remember him unable to even keep classified information private . I compared Trump to Hitler multiple time

But not you. You see the same reality and go: This calls for complaining about an old Democrat.

I talk badly about politicians from both side, while you can only condemn . This literally like the fifth goddamn time I said something along that line in this post but again cultists like you love to ignore things that doesn't fit your narrative

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

As long as you don't an good argument disproving my point, I will keep repeating it

False. No action on my part will stop you.

Again, in keeping with my thesis.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

False. No action on my part will stop you.

Actually no action my my part will stop you for claiming that I try to sabotage dems chance of winning

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Actually no action my my part will stop you for claiming that I try to sabotage dems chance of winning

Nonsense.

When your whataboutism stops, my criticism of your actions (I'd go after anyone else doing that shit) will just evaporate.

If your initial post and comments were all about We need AOC, and/or All AIPAC candidates need to be replaced, you'd have support instead.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Whataboutism is hypocrites like you're favorite word. There's no whataboutism about holding all politicians the same when they use the same rhetoric. When Hillary claimed Iran was seeking a nuke without proof, she was wrong; when Trump says the same thing, he is wrong.

If your initial post and comments were all about We need AOC, and/or All AIPAC candidates need to be replaced, you’d have support instead.

So you want me to only keeps about the good democrats? You are proving again that you think like a cultist , you don't want people to criticize the warmonger on your side only about the warmonger on the other side. I am sorry but I will keep condemn bad people no matter what is their affiliation and praise them when they do something good.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I am sorry but I will keep condemn bad people no matter what is their affiliation

Tl;dr: I will do what I can to discourage democrats from voting.

and praise them when they do something good.

No, you'll increase the volume and quantity of Democrats Bad/Just as Bad/Whatabout Hilary rhetoric.

You will do so with passion. No one, and no thing will stop you.

Maximal engagement regarding who isn't in power, Minimal engagement about the current atrocities being committed by the current regime.

It's what you have been doing, and what you will continue to do.

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

I appreciate you incurring psychic damage to ensure this troglodyte knows their place.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'll never know whether it's freelance or if it's paid gig work, but I have a low tolerance for anyone that schleps for Trump.

I certainly won't track them, but they will absolutely keep yipping in the exact way that I described, and will ramp it up as the midterm elections approach. It will be measurable, and there will be little to no anti-Trump rhetoric in their content.

I appreciate your kind words on psychic damage, but between you and me, I get tremendous joy out of making asshats go bonkers by just describing what they're doing.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 3 points 6 months ago

Tl;dr: The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans! See? Look how similar they are!

Whataboutism

It's not a favorite word. It's an accurate one.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 9 points 6 months ago

Have you been in a coma since 2008?

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 point 6 months ago

nearly 20 years ago

Fuck, where does the time go?

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -22 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Because we should never forget warmongers. She may decide to run again

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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (9 children)

"...oh yeah? Well Hillary bla-bla-bla and Biden bla-bla-bla, how about them apples?"

It's ridiculous to see the mental gymnastics of the cult members at play. All while we're still dealing with the aftermath of the two wars George W. Bush started, while he and his friends were placing some heavy investments in Halliburton and Blackwater. And coincidentally, the stock market is making leaps and bounds nowadays. Wonder who have been calling their brokers lately.

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -14 points 6 months ago* (8 children)

The only cultist here is you. Both parties you have is the usa are cults. Unlike you, I do not forget war criminals from both side

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[+] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Even worse. You are not american yet you still worship american war criminals. Hilary support wars, trump support wars so they those two war criminals that are equally bad. I did not say every democrats is as bad as every republicans

I am not american either I still call for every single goddamn war criminal from both parties to rot in jail including genocide Trump unlike you defending Hilary like she is your dominatrix

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The fuck are you on about, kid?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

No - you’re making wild and completely unfounded assertions about who people are “worshipping”. Nobody fucking likes Hillary. You’re outraged about something that isn’t a thing.

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stop pretending. if those people I accused of being worshipers hated her they would not get mad about this post being posted and downvoting it . You are projecting , you are the one getting outraged

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

I’m not downvoting the vid you posted. But I am downvoting your obnoxiously pithy and inane comments.

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[+] mrdown@lemmy.world [S] -7 points 6 months ago

Look at my responses to lwoj in this post. He disagreed with me and was respectful. I was too.

You and the other members started with the agressive tone but get mad when I am responding the same way

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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Real-world unhinged behaviour. I haven't made a single statement about Hilary Clinton since we started. The only one who seems to be obsessed and dominated by her is you, poor man.