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2008 Hillary Clinton Says As President She Would Attack Iran At any state of Building nuclear weapons (www.youtube.com)
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[–] 6 points 6 months ago (19 children)

Hilary would definitly be better for americans but as bad when it comes to Iran amd Gaza. Hilary may even have more competent admin that would allow israel and the usa cresting a failed state in Iran

I guess you're right. The speculative scenario you're imagining here sounds horrific.

Thankfully, we only have the reality Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth to deal with.

I can see how what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are up to currently, is absolutely eclipsed by the horrors of Hillary Clinton quotes from almost two decades ago.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 6 months ago (18 children)

    Thankfully, we only have the reality Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth to deal with.

    I can see how what Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth are up to currently, is absolutely eclipsed by the horrors of Hillary Clinton quotes from almost two decades ago.

    And that's why I am vocal about trump attrocities. Also because american presidents got away with vietnam, afghsnistan, iraq, libya, syria and gaza , Trump will get away with his war crimes.

    Like I said a million of time . I do not forget about warmongers , I will talk about Trump war crimes till I die

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (17 children)

    Like I said a million of time . I do not forget about warmongers , I will talk about Trump war crimes till I die

    Like I said, rhetoric of the Both Sides are the Same variety, as a major election approaches, is very, very helpful for Donald Trump.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    You are discussing in very bad faith. You are too delusional if you believe that posting a video about Hillary's warmongering will make people not vote for a good candidate like AOC or Ro Khanna. Everybody knows each politician only represents themselves; Ro Khanna is not held accountable for something another Democrat says, for example.

    How is Hillary threatening Iran for a lie she invented about an imaginary Iranian nuclear program not as bad as Trump telling the same lie to start a war?

    There are certain users who call AOC a secret Zionist. Why didn't it bother you as much as a video about Hillary the warmonger, who backed up all American foreign intervention only to later pretend that it was a mistake?

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (15 children)

    You are discussing in very bad faith. You are too delusional if you believe that posting a video about Hillary's warmongering

    Hillary's warmongering is the specific phrase that you are attempting to repeat as much as humanly possible.

    Once again, what is currently happening at the hands of Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, is absolutely uninteresting to you.

    By the way, your antics are harmful to excellent Democrats like AOC.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children)

    Hillary’s warmongering is the specific phrase that you are attempting to repeat as much as humanly possible.

    Are you denying that she supported many American interventions resulting failed states and hundred thousands of death. when she was in position of power like in Libya? How calling her a war monger is not accurate

    Once again, what is currently happening at the hands of Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth, is absolutely uninteresting to you.

    Once again I am vocal about it. You are turning a blind eye about it because you want to convince yourself that I am supporting Trump . That's what cultists does .

    By the way, your antics are harmful to excellent Democrats like AOC.

    By the way you blindly defending warmongers when they are democrats is currently what harm aoc.

    How about addressing my points and questions for once. Why didn't it bother you when there was posts criticizing AOC?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (13 children)

    Tl;dr: one more repetition of Hillary is a warmonger, and a declaration of intent to repeat it.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago* (12 children)

    I asked you to explain how she is not a warmonger. You refused. How is that not bad faith by you?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    I asked you to explain how she is not a warmonger. You refused. How is that not bad faith by you?

    Your confusion is based on the idea that there is a debate happening.

    As the midterm elections approach, you will ramp up rhetoric against high profile Democrats.

    I'm describing a specific tactic, and you're executing on that tactic.

    What you are doing is in keeping with what I'm claiming.

    There is no need to address your concerns re: bad faith.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 6 months ago (10 children)

    You didn't answer the question . How Hillary is not a warmonger ?

    As the midterm elections approach, you will ramp up rhetoric against high profile Democrats. . I’m describing a specific tactic, and you’re executing on that tactic.

    You have zero evidence that I am doing that

    There is no need to address your concerns re: bad faith.

    Bad faith is to not answers people questions, accuse people with no solid evidence. It is you who is doing it.

    If you don't want to address my concerns just disengage

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Tl;dr:

    Additional repetition of Hillary is a Warmonger.

    You have zero evidence that I am doing that

    See above summary. See your future comments history.

    All consistent with my claim.

    For example, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War prays using fake Bible verses from Pulp Fiction, in support of what he is selling as a holy War.

    For normal people, the visceral response to Pete Hegseth trying to sell some Christian Nationalist bullshit, in conjunction with the President posting memes of himself as Christ, is to want to get them out of power quick fast and in a hurry.

    But not you. You see the same reality and go: This calls for complaining about an old Democrat.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Additional repetition of Hillary is a Warmonger.

    As long as you don't an good argument disproving my point, I will keep repeating it

    See above summary. See your future comments history.

    Still waiting for the proofs

    For example, Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War prays using fake Bible verses from Pulp Fiction, in support of what he is selling as a holy War.

    Did I ever defended him? I know Pete is a nazi and war mongers and he is also incompetent. I still remember him unable to even keep classified information private . I compared Trump to Hitler multiple time

    But not you. You see the same reality and go: This calls for complaining about an old Democrat.

    I talk badly about politicians from both side, while you can only condemn . This literally like the fifth goddamn time I said something along that line in this post but again cultists like you love to ignore things that doesn't fit your narrative

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    As long as you don't an good argument disproving my point, I will keep repeating it

    False. No action on my part will stop you.

    Again, in keeping with my thesis.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    False. No action on my part will stop you.

    Actually no action my my part will stop you for claiming that I try to sabotage dems chance of winning

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Actually no action my my part will stop you for claiming that I try to sabotage dems chance of winning

    Nonsense.

    When your whataboutism stops, my criticism of your actions (I'd go after anyone else doing that shit) will just evaporate.

    If your initial post and comments were all about We need AOC, and/or All AIPAC candidates need to be replaced, you'd have support instead.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Whataboutism is hypocrites like you're favorite word. There's no whataboutism about holding all politicians the same when they use the same rhetoric. When Hillary claimed Iran was seeking a nuke without proof, she was wrong; when Trump says the same thing, he is wrong.

    If your initial post and comments were all about We need AOC, and/or All AIPAC candidates need to be replaced, you’d have support instead.

    So you want me to only keeps about the good democrats? You are proving again that you think like a cultist , you don't want people to criticize the warmonger on your side only about the warmonger on the other side. I am sorry but I will keep condemn bad people no matter what is their affiliation and praise them when they do something good.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I am sorry but I will keep condemn bad people no matter what is their affiliation

    Tl;dr: I will do what I can to discourage democrats from voting.

    and praise them when they do something good.

    No, you'll increase the volume and quantity of Democrats Bad/Just as Bad/Whatabout Hilary rhetoric.

    You will do so with passion. No one, and no thing will stop you.

    Maximal engagement regarding who isn't in power, Minimal engagement about the current atrocities being committed by the current regime.

    It's what you have been doing, and what you will continue to do.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    I appreciate you incurring psychic damage to ensure this troglodyte knows their place.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I'll never know whether it's freelance or if it's paid gig work, but I have a low tolerance for anyone that schleps for Trump.

    I certainly won't track them, but they will absolutely keep yipping in the exact way that I described, and will ramp it up as the midterm elections approach. It will be measurable, and there will be little to no anti-Trump rhetoric in their content.

    I appreciate your kind words on psychic damage, but between you and me, I get tremendous joy out of making asshats go bonkers by just describing what they're doing.

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