MousePotatoDoesStuff comments on Genies hate this one simple trick

You can make a random number generator and start reading the numbers, if you can say them, you are right, easy, you don't even need to think at that point

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago*

I mean, with lotto numbers you could just start trying to count. Once you can say the number, you move on to the next one. Depending on how the wish works, you could even try just sounding things out.

The meaning of life is mmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaasssssssssstuuuuurrrrrrrrrrb-“ Hmm… What would come after the B? “The meaning of life is masturbaaaa-“… Oh. OH.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (11 children)

but whatever I guess will be right.

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (10 children)

No, no, no. You'll be blocked when you try to guess the wrong thing. You still have to try guessing on your won.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (9 children)

still not hard, the first number is [strained noise],[strained noise],[strained noise],[strained noise],4.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (8 children)

The lottery numbers haven't been picked yet, so nothing would be correct until they get picked.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

What if i say "next lottery numbers of [company that does it] [game name] will be ___ ___ ___ 7"?

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

That doesn't negate that they haven't been chosen yet, so there is no correct answer, and you won't be able to say any number at all for that statement. In fact, it may make you mute until the numbers are chosen as anything you say after that would be incorrect.

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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

That depends on if everything is pre-determined or not, as well as if any are rigged (not that you could really benifit from rigged ones). No matter what you'd be good at poker.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (4 children)

will be.... impossible to know will be.... a sequence of numbers between 1 and 69

You could be compelled to say any number of unhelpful things instead of the numbers.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 6 months ago (3 children)

It's stil easy you just narrow down, "will be any number between 2 and 30" ok sure, "will be any number between 14 and 20", "will be 16 and 18" yep, it's def 17

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You are assuming you'll even be allowed to utter specifc numbers at all.

Think a genie scenario would have you utterly blocked before the first syllable that could possibly be helpful.

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[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

That wouldn't make sense, like, you couldn't do a lot of things because od that...

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

We are talking about a genie here, not like they want to help you out (depending on the lore).

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

Alternatively, “was” is past tense. Meaning everything you’ve said in the past was correct. But that has no bearing on the future. The wish would undoubtedly fuck up a lot of things in the past from little daily white lies compounding (or even bigger childhood lies that could have drastically altered the world) but wouldn’t have any impact on things going forwards.

A genie would find a way to twist the wish for maximum suffering. And having your 4 year old “watch me, I can fly” lie be true would have some long lasting implications. Likely even leading up to a paradox where you were never even able to make the wish in the first place, because some childhood lie ended up getting you maimed or killed before you ever rubbed the lamp.

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[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago

The way this works in reality is with retrocausality. In the same sense that a molecule is controlled by a cell but still influences the cell, phenomequalitesselation is where God or similar conceptualization of retrocausal force (time travel) controls the unfolding of history, but our most human choices influence the strange attractor of the transcendental object at the end of the universe, so we have free will in a deterministic system, which is really illusory, like the self.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"If I wish for three more wishes, you will grant them with no catches."

Keep doing this, over and over again, trying different strategies. It's a way to test and validate genie loopholes (as you will be unable to state that if it's wrong).

Though if the genie was smart, being "wrong" would be qualified to your own internal knowledge, I suppose. E.g. you can't knowingly lie.

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