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[–] 33 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Average Lemmy user, "There is no difference between the politician on the left and the politician on the right."

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I was just going to point out that deportations were higher under Biden.

    Then I remembered who that guy in the picture is!

    Hindenburg literally appointed Hitler chancellor, approved the Reichstag Fire Decree, and gave the Nazis emergency powers by singing the Enabling Act of 1933. Do you not even credit him slightly for the rise of Hitler and the Nazis?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The guy on the left appointed Hitler and then gave him power with the Enabling Act and aided in giving him unchecked powers.

    So without Hindenburg, Hitler wouldn't have been put into power. So he's far from a good guy.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Anyone who knows the guy on the left: "Hindenburg went out of his way to empower Hitler and the Nazis when it was clear that his coalition was failing. Instead of working with the Social Democrats, he empowered the Nazi. Without his choices, there's a chance that the Hitler wouldn't have come to power. He's an awful person."

    You: "so you think there's no difference between the two?!"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lebensraum, and the implied means to achieve it, was a policy goal of WW1 as it happens.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    That's kind of the idea I was thinking of. Lemmy users would focus on the bad of Hindenburg and declare him identical to Hitler. Hindenburg wasn't a saint but it's wrong to say there's no difference between Hindenburg and Hitler.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Still waiting for the Democrats to start fighting Nazis

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The only two who tried to shoot Trump were right wing. I have seen any leftists/socialists try and stop Trump either.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Shooting Trump wouldn't really help? He'd just become a martyr for MAGA and JD Vance would do all the shit Trump was going to do, but also use the assassination as an excuse to deport leftists.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This all under a picture of Hitler hah

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you kill Hitler and aren't organized enough to take advantage of the infighting (or assassinate the rest of Nazi leadership) then one of the other Nazis will just slide into his place. It's not like there are a shortage of potential Hitlers around.

    Assassination has to be part of a larger, more organized political project or it doesn't really accomplish anything.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Idk I'd probably still advocate killing Hitler

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    But it doesn't fix anything.

    A hypothetical time traveler needs to build organized resistance and implement a strategy to destroy the the Nazi Party, otherwise you just get WW2 and the Holocaust with a different guy in charge. You can't even be sure it would be better if you replaced Hitler with a different Nazi. Remember, Hitler lost.

    Lone wolf tactics and adventurism do not work and can not work.

    Even if it would be really funny.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This post is on .world so I'd expect the majority of upvotes are .world too.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How does this post say there is no difference?

    Instead your comments tend to be similar to how republicans always claim "It is fine when my team does it"

    Do you have anything better than using an ad hominem?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Funding ICE and even reducing the budget while following normal legal procedures is a gigantic difference between Trump increasing ICE 3X and performing illegal deportations.

    It's not an ad hominem, it's a comparison.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Funding ICE kept it around for trump.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You realize every country has border patrol, right? Spending money on your border patrol agency isn’t inherently evil. Denmark is one of the most “socialist” countries in the world, but they also have one of the strictest border policies.

    ICE under Obama was very different to ICE under Trump.

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