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Huge Group of Experts Warns Meta That Its Pervert Glasses Will Enable Terrible Crimes (futurism.com)
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[+] -12 points 6 months ago (25 children)

I've never completely understood what the full fuss is over the face-mounted cameras. They put high-power zooms and 50MP sensors on the back of cell phones, and nobody bats an eye.

There's fuckloads of recording going on. Do it with a phone? yeah fine. Do it with glasses, world's gonna end.

Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it's on from the nose bridge.

I'd LOVE to replace my phone with a pair of glasses.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, both the glasses and phone can record.

    The glasses have an AI that can scan social media, and other public data, to identify people in real time. I supposed this can be done with an app on a phone. But the glasses do this as a core function.

    It's also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

    Agree. Less obvious with glasses... AND easier to do it 24/7. People get tired holding up a phone. Or they have to put it down to use both hands for something. With glasses, some will record everyone around them, during every moment of their waking life.

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  • [+] -7 points 6 months ago

    But the glasses do this as a core function.

    go back to google glass, it had none of that and it was just as big of a target.

    It’s also a lot more obvious when someone is using a phone to record in public.

    There are entire kinks around voyure footage taken unaware in public from cell phones. I think your lack of seeing people doing it a confirmation bias.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    Put an indicator light on the glasses with a sensor to make sure it's on from the nose bridge.

    This is that part that's missing, it's more obvious when someone is holding their phone to record you. Phone's should probably have an indicator too....

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    this also assumes the entire public is aware of what that little light means, if they can even see it in sunny situations. oh, a light! ok, why didn’t you say so, i by all means now consent to endless public recording from human mounted cameras /s

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago*

    Actually I think the public would generally understand this. Older demographics know what a camera indicator is, and for younger ones, a little light on sunglasses would get their attention.

    Universally? No. But I'd wager the percentage is high enough for a crowd to know.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    In some countries, they've made it illegal to turn off the shutter sound on your camera, so that women can hear the sound when some pervert is trying to take upskirts.

    Putting a recording light on the glasses does basically the same thing, by alerting those around them. It wouldn't be hard to disable it, though.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    phones should absolutely indicate and in a way that can't be taped over.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Can't it just be illegal to record someone without consent or something? Barring whistelblowing use cases. Putting it on the device manufacturers to stop it is rather dystopian and is like the age verification laws going into affect so they can shut down foss.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    I'm totally down with that. exception of the police and government officials. of course, it'd never happen because it would make commercial surveilance cameras illegal.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 6 months ago

    Would be less of an issue if everything wasn't uploaded and analyzed by Meta, which will eventually be handed over to the feds and advertisers. If everything was done locally and not uploaded, there's still the problem of it being like a "spy" cam. Lights can always be taped or painted over. There's already been cases of people doing stuff like going to massage parlors and uploading the videos. There's been reports of Meta employees and contractors having to analyze videos of people using the restroom, dressing/undressing, having sex (I assume these people didn't realize they were recording, or they didn't realize others would be able watch).

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you'll be totally cool?
    Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don't know about it.

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  • [+] -6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    If I obviously orientate my phone towards you or your kids, you’ll be totally cool?

    You don't need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you "reading social media" would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

    Now assume that a smartpervert glass wearer is doing just that but you don’t know about it.

    Assume every time someone has their phone in front of them their camera is on and has at least a 45 degree viewing angle.

    I'm saying it's exactly the same on a phone, don't delude yourself that it isn't happening or that it'd be totally obvious

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    This comparison is like saying that, because a car can be used to run over pedestrians at any time, there is no reason to be alarmed about people installing the Crosswalk-pocalypse 5000 (now with 30% more spikes!) on their front bumper.

    Of course we know people can discretely record you with a phone. The difference is that the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

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  • [–] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    the fraction of people doing that is very small, while the percentage of people doing that with Meta glasses is basically 100%.

    care to give me any citation at all on that?

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Honestly, pulling it out of my ass.

    Now your turn... what is your definition of "very small", and where is your citation that a larger percentage of the population uses their phone camera to discretely creep on people?

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Okay? I don’t want to make it easier for pervs to record people.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago

    My problem is we've let it through literally everywhere else, cameras, cellphones, public survielance, dashcams. The one thing that i'd actually like to be able not to pull my phones out for is the hill to die on. it just all seems really fucking pointless

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    You don’t need to obviously do that, a reasonably wide lens and you “reading social media” would do the same. It happens all the fucking time.

    No, I don't think it happens "all the fucking time". That it happens is granted. I don't think it's that common.

    I’m saying it’s exactly the same on a phone, don’t delude yourself that it isn’t happening or that it’d be totally obvious

    Smartphones have an incredibly range of usage, and no one ever advertised them as "tool to secretly take pics and videos of people around you". And no, it's not that easy to film people secretly: you need to maintain the phone with the right orientation for an extended period of time and if you or the target move, it gets more and more obvious.

    Smartglasses are almost made for that, and the abuses are already showing out there:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/meta-glasses-app-covert-filming-women-girls-safety-b2942005.html https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/meta-glasses-covert-recording-9.7139927 https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/09/world/manfluencers-smart-glasses-intl https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx23ke7rm7go

    I'm not the delusional here. You're in denial of what's already happening. And without a strong regulation, it will get worse.

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