I'm in the US, no degree, and absolutely sick to death of working in retail.

I've tried all the jobs website. They haven't even gotten me an interview. The only job search method that's ever given me results is to think of businesses near me and apply to them directly. But that only leaves me working more retail, since public facing businesses are all I'm interacting with.

I just want a job that pays my bills, and lets me work on a consistent schedule. I'm so sick of having my hours constantly whipped back and forth. I just want to go to bed at the same time every day.

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[–] 9 points 7 months ago (9 children)

what would basic tools be. Seems wierd they expect the person to show up with tools for a general helper job.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Measuring tape, speed square, pencil, bags, durable and weather appropriate clothes/shoes. Lunch. Water. It's just the industry standard.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    thats not to bad but I honestly do not know what a speed square is unless its that little 90 degree angled metal thing maybe?

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    It's that little 90 degree angled metal thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    ok so thats not to bad. really everything discocactus listed is pretty common in any job except for the pencil, tape measure, and speed square. The speed square is then the only not common thing.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah. "Bring your own tools" is a pretty common policy in a lot of blue collar work. The company might technically provide the tools you need - but they will typically provide the cheapest, shittiest versions. So the workers will bring their own tools, which are higher quality. And since they are personally owned, they are less likely to get broken or "walk away". And since everyone is bringing their own tools, the guy at the job site who is supposed to bring the tools gets lackadaisical about that part of his job.

    So you show up as the new guy, first day on the job, and they say

    "where's your hammer?"

    "I dunno, I thought you guys had hammers"

    "Joe, we have any hammers?"

    "We got some at the office"

    And now you're just gonna stand around all day not doing shit, feeling embarassed that you don't have a hammer. And then you go to the hardware store and buy a hammer after work that day, so Joe is able to continue slacking off at his job of remembering to bring the hammers.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)
    • Unless you're in Europe. Having to bring your own tools is a north american thing. Here all tools are provided, even pencils and tape measures. Hell, my last construction job even provided clothes and work boots, but that might be company specific. Also, generally north american construction companies require you to have your own hand tools, but not expensive power tools like large drills and saws. Cordless power tools can go either way but I always had my own.

    Source: worked 15+ years construction in NA, and did a year in Europe before changing careers.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Depends on the trade but tape measure and pencil+sharpie is standard. Framers will need hammer and speed square, electrician will need strippers, lineman pliers, etc.

    Most stuff will be provided by whoever youre working with but you'll be expected to invest in your tools periodically. If you have to borrow something twice, you should pick it up.

    Also, good protective shoes. Im a big fan of my Keens.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    If youre super green (no experience at all) they wont expect much. You wont need much for the first year other than being able to show up, listen to directions, and not hurt yourself or others.

    A framing crew will expect you to have basic hand tools more than a general construction company would. One is teaching you a trade and the other just wants a laborer.

    Being a good helper gets you started toward something better. A lead, a contractor, whatever. I work for myself now, and that is very achievable for anyone.

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