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Oh look, another Electron app. How original… (files.catbox.moe)
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[–] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (13 children)

Why have a consistent Wayland experience when each application can run it's own Electron version with varying degrees of enforced Wayland flags, and/or such an outdated Chromium version Wayland is just jank.

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Was trying to say that most of these CEF/Electron applications all need their own separate Wayland specific (Chromium) flags to have better Wayland support/integration. And the older Electron applications typically use an older Chromium as base, having even worse Wayland support... Was not trying to make this a "Wayland bad!" kind of post.

TL;DR: Electron applications have wildly varying level of Wayland support/integration, don't have any Wayland issues other than specific CEF/Electron apps!

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  • [–] 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Wayland isn't the problem. Chrome just doesn't behave well with it. I haven't had any Wayland-related issues with Firefox.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, maybe it was just badly worded by me...

    most (if not all) Wayland issues I currently have are related to Chromium, and especially CEF/Electron applications that are based on older Chromium versions. Weren't trying to say that this is an inherent Wayland issue, considering most of the applications works as expected.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    Ah I see. I understand now! I thought you may have been one of the people that is still saying X11 is superior, even though Wayland is very usable now.

    Ive been hitting weird issues in Chrome too, and had to disable GPU compositing to fix them. Unfortunately I have to use Chrome at work - we're not allowed to use other browsers, as only Chrome has the endpoint security functionality they require (provided by Chrome Enterprise Premium). No other browsers have or can provide the same features.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Always that reflex against Wayland - as someone who has switched to Linux not so long ago i have a hard time with the mindset long time Linux users have against Wayland. I understand that it might be annoying if someone is used to his X-Server and that some tools that people are used to for a decade will get left behind. But as a new user I do not have anything negative to say about Wayland. It behaves nicely with my multi-monitor setup and VRR, has no issues with my Nvidia graphics card, and Xwayland covers tools that can't or won't migrate. Using Pipewire allows Steam Remote Play. In the year or so since i switched to Linux, the stability has changed from "it's ok, but annoys me sometimes" to "rock-solid".

    Y'all have to recognize that there is a new generation of Linux Users around, which does not have nostalgic feelings towards X, and for those Wayland is simply the normal way things run. Whining will not change that.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Very much pro-Wayland in my case.

    Just saying that certain CEF/Electron apps (especially those running on older Chromium version) are what is causing certain Wayland specific issues, hence my issue is on the application side (Steam, Spotify etc.), not on Wayland's side... My bad for the badly worded post which made it seem like the classical "Wayland bad!" posts.

    I haven't touched X11/Xorg in years, nor am I planning on reverting back to it anytime.

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