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Why does Arch seem to have a cult like following? (reddthat.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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Also why does everyone seem to hate on Ubuntu?

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[–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Can you elaborate a bit on don't need or want software?

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    like forcing snap or amazon search ads back in the day

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Or mir, or pulseaudio before it was ready, or deprecating ffmpeg for half a year... Etc etc

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They pushed systemd really early too, right?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I think so. I lost count of the little things, it really was death by a thousand paper cuts.

    I was a pretty rabid fan of Ubuntu, still have an x86 and ppc CD of 5.04 somewhere.

    But by the time snaps started appearing, and then Ubuntu pro, Ubuntu decided to revert some of my customized configs in /etc after an upgrade, I had had enough. When snaps were reinstalled after an upgrade in 2021, I just flipped over to Debian, which has come a long way in being usable out of the box.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    deprecating ffmpeg for half a year

    wut

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's true, and it was a huge pain in the ass:

    https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/223855

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Interesting read. It sounds like that issue came upstream from Debian not Ubuntu though.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    At the time, canonical was throwing its weight around and essentially bullying Debian upstream repos. Around this time, there was a mass exodus of the Debian leadership over this kind of thing.

    The old guard of Debian wasn't as... enthusiastic about systemd either, but look what they use now.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The biggest one: Snaps.

    I switched from Ubuntu to Debian, and it's basically the same thing, just faster since it uses native packages instead of Snaps. Ubuntu might as well run all it's apps in Docker containers.

    You could rebrand Debian to Ubuntu and most users wouldn't even notice.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    These days it's mainly snap and how you can type apt install and the system will do snap install instead, for firefox for example.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Firefox has instructions on their website for adding their PPA and pinning it over Ubuntu's. I find it interesting that they made an official response that seems to say "yeah nonconsensual snaps are bad, here's another option"

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