Every 80, even the 480 that is the 580. 580 is just a higher clocked 480, and 470 is 480 with a gew cores shut down.

And how should I judge whst is high end if not by where it sits by performance, price, and how they market it.

At the time it was high end, as I said and contrary what he said.

It wasn't highest end, that was nvidia. But it was definitely, by performance, high end.

The insane prices (and power usages) now, combined with constant hypes, have made people not really objective.

1060 was a great mid card when it came out. 6gb vram. 8gb is mid going towards high end now. I play with 3D rendering for a while now and I wish 16gb was the norm, but it just isn't.

PS Those amd cards worked a bit differently then nvidias. They were harder to optimize for. And nvidia had more money to trow at driver optimizations and working with big game and game engine studios. So the public view of amd cards was worse. That's why they said later for amd gpus to "age like fine wine". When crypto came, they all bought amd cards (easier to write mining kernels since crypto is much simpler then graphics).

Doom 2016 is optimized for those gpus...