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We are where we are because Democrats fumbled an eminently winnable election, twice (lemmy.ml)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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they didn't even bother with a pretence of a primary the second time.

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[–] 19 points 7 months ago (35 children)

Meanwhile, Pedohitler went with "I'm gonna rape kids, I'm gonna rob money, I'm gonna cut your rights, and deport every non white person of the country, I'm gonna install a paramilitary force to beat you all, and I have a book that's basically nazism 2.0 (great guy, btw) to start applying from the first day".

But apparently, the issue is with the lady that wasn't good enough. The US is an infirm society in which around 60% of the people voting decided that Hitler was better than a imperfect woman.

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    imagine losing to him. a coughing baby could have won that election but she had to be the guy.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    Thats cool, did Harris win on her platform? Did she sour thr left completely by parading with republicans and saying nothing will change? I'm not saying its better that fucken Trump won. I am saying its obvious why he did.

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  • [–] -5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    "I'm not saying it's better that he won, I'm saying that it's normal that people voted for him instead than the woman that didn't want to rape kids, nor rob money, nor cut your rights, nor deport every non white person of the country, nor install a paramilitary force to beat you all, nor install nazism 2.0 through the nazism handbook because she supported Israhell the same way the Pedohitler did".

    More than 60% of the fucking people of that country decided that nazism was better than a woman. But the problem is that she wasn't good enough. Not that HE was making Hitler a desirable option, not that HE was raping kids... No. It's that she wasn't good enough. LOL. LMAO even.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    Look at how mad you are looking back at reality.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Are you not mad?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    How can you be named prole and be such a lib?

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Don't get me wrong, I don't even live in that shithole.

    It's rich tho, coming to take the moral high ground saying that not voting for any of the candidates was better than having something that wasn't Hitler with child-rapist traits. Anyone who could and didn't vote for Harris is as guilty of what's happening in the world as anyone who voted for Pedohitler.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I didnt say you lived here. I said you were mad and you clearly are. Theres no moral high ground here. Everyone knows all you have to say to win by a landslide is "I will strike down Citizens United and take our massive military budget and cut it in half for healthcare and education" and thats it. But nobody at the helm wanta to say that because they're greasing their own pockets with how it is now. You can be mad. It doesnt change reality that Harris also fucked that one up mad.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Anyone who could and didn’t vote for Harris is as guilty of what’s happening in the world as anyone who voted for Pedohitler.

    That's it. That's all. If you didn't vote for Harris is because you think that she was as good (or bad) as Pedohitler. The rest is basically you making excuses to not face this reality.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago*

    I did vote for her you nincompoop I already said it. i wish I voted for PSL at this point.

    Edit: actuallt no fuck that. I did what you said is all that mattered and we're still getting fucked by fascists. Libs are absolutely brain dead if they think this was gonna turn out any other way and I am tired of pretending it was.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    I remember when Biden was still the candidate and a ton of people were saying he should drop out of the race in favour of Harris. That sentiment ended in what feels like less than a week.

    I wonder if it was the same people calling for him to step down then who are stubbornly attacking her now.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    He didn't drop out until they had effectively prevented any internal challengers by waiting until the primary was over the make the switch to his hand-picked successor.

    If they had had an actual primary and not just ignored all the people protest voting 'uncommitted' in the joke one that they did have they wouldn't have botched it as bad as they did. That's on democratic leadership, not the voters.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    She wasn't a hand picked successor. She was a leftover campaign promise. She was what's left.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Unfortunately I believe this is true.

    That campaign promise, combined with Biden's ego forcing/allowing him to press on beyond his capacity, put the Dems in a very bad position.

    If Joe Biden had been strong enough to commit and stick to a single term, they could have cultivated and promoted a much better ticket.

    It would probably still have resulted in Harris being the nominee, which was the point of that campaign promise.

    But at least it wouldn't have been the shit show we saw. Maybe she could have gathered the courage to have some differing positions from Biden/DNC

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (14 children)

    Nice false dichotomy there bucko but there are more than two choices. Continue to abdicate your political will into a system that was designed to use it against you.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    The third option: the putin asset. I see where you are going. Well, enjoy your pedopresident. I guess it's better than the alternative

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (9 children)

    Nice bad faith argument you made there. You don't see jack shit. No one said it's "better".

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    It's fine, I understand. You need to justify your choice. It's tough to realize that by not voting you helped the pedopresident get into power because otherwise you would have voted for someone that was less bad than Hitler.

    Enjoy it and please, when November arrive, don't vote!

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Nice blame shifting. This is why no one takes neolibs seriously.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Fair enough. That's on me, it's what happens when someone tries to discuss with your kind. Should have known better.

    Anyway, enjoy your president! Hope you get some more years of him, since you look so eager to let him rule by not voting!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    Thanks for showing how little solidarity you have.

    Expected of neolibs like you.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Solidarity? We spent the whole campaign warning you of what would happen if you elected pedohitler. Of everything he'd do. And you still elected him by either voting for him or not voting at all. This is self inflicted pain, mate. And you are doubling down by saying that it was fine because voting for Harris would have changed nothing? What do you expect from us? Enjoy your thing, you caused it.

    And do yourself a favour, you don't even know where I allign pollitically, stop embarrassing yourself by calling me a neolib.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I didn't elect pedo Hitler. So you can stop trying to shift that blame onto me, neolib. Also never said anything that is happening is fine. So you can also stop trying to put words in my mouth.

    People were warning about the direction this country has been heading for over century yet people like you continued to allow it to happen by continuing to enable the very mechanisms that fascist have been using to consolidate power.

    Fuck off from my notifications already. Your lack of class consciousness is pathetic. Continue to abdicate your political will into the hands of your own oppressors if you want, the rest of us actually want to start building something different and fight back against them.

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    I allowed what? Mate, there is an ocean between that shithole and my country. I can't even vote there and you blame me for your shitty decisions as a country? It's also lots of fun seeing you call me neolib when you don't even know what I vote in my country. Typical tankie.

    Also, yeah, you had two options: you could vote for harris or allow pedohitler to be elected directly or indirectly. Is your system shit? Yup, congratulations on realizing that your democracy is a pile of shit.

    Was there a better option than pedohitler from which to start to create something better? Yup, but you decided that pedohitler was not worse than Harris, so you let him get there. And now you are blaming others because you put yourselves in that situation. I'm sure you'll be fine for the next years... sooner or later pedohitler will die, you'll go to vote, there will be another nazi competing with a suboptimal (but not-nazi) candidate and you'll go again with "but the suboptimal candidate is no perfect! I won't vote because this is not what I want!". I just hope the next nazi you elect is old, because if he's young, you're in for a few decades of fantastic fascism.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yap Yap yap, you're still fucking here? Piss off mate. I'm done with your bullshit. Continue slinging blame instead of having any inkling of understanding about systemic forces and long term politics.

    Go be a cuck for your own oppression elsewhere. Enjoy being blocked.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago

    It's fine. You allowed pedohitler to be in power and this is your way of coping with it. Don't worry, sooner or later you'll (hopefully) understand that what you're doing is the wrong way of changing things. Although I don't hold my hopes up with tankies; as we can see here, it's hard to reason with one.

    And yup, I'm still here because, guess what, unlike in your imagination, in reality, you can't order other people to do your will, you better get used to it or go back to your basement, buttercup.

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