▲ 163 ▼ Valve Developer Improves The Linux Gaming Experience For Limited vRAM Hardware (www.phoronix.com) submitted 7 months ago by commander@lemmy.world to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 55 points 7 months ago (15 children) Valve are cool, love that they do this. I know it helps them, but they have done so much for Linux gaming it’s incredible. permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (14 children) Just wish it was coming from a non-commercial entity. Puts a sour note on the status of Linux gaming that a for-profit entity is the only one out there making meaningful progress. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (9 children) Lots of for-profit commercial entities contribute to open source projects. The code they're contributing is covered by the same license as the code contributed by volunteer developers. I understand why we should be cautious about these things, but the current situation is that Valve is contributing a lot and their contributions are open source. Yeah, they're doing it for a profit motive, but not to the point where they're trying to kill open source projects or hide the updates behind proprietary binaries. Valve is, currently, not being evil. GabeN has plenty of yacht money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Yup, long as it's copyleft (GPL) open source, I don't care if it's microslop paying. That said, watch out for a new wave of EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) using unmaintainable AI code, and be ready to fork. Valve, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago Yeah, exactly. If they ever try anything you can just fork from just before that update. While they play nice, their contributions are welcome and improve software for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gabe really is one of the exceptions that not all CEOs are evil bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nah. No one, not even Gabe Newell, deserves a billion dollars. The very act of having that much wealth when there are still hungry and homeless people is in itself evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Right, but we look at examples like Chromium and we can see where there is still so much potential for things to go sideways. GabeN and his yacht could sink to the bottom of the sea and his estate sells control of Valve to someone less benevolent. A commercial entity that has enough control over a project pushes the direction of that project in their favor. And sure you can fork a FOSS project at any time, but once the commercialized version has enough saturation, user inertia and lack of experienced developers to take that initiative often prevents alternatives from achieving success. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago I think the big difference is Valve isn't really in control of many of the projects they're funding, they're mostly just bringing in existing maintainers as contractors and letting them work on what they want. Chromium on the other hand has always been something Google has explicitly been in direct control of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago Unfortunately it’s very hard to fund non profit work in the current economy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 7 months ago on the flip, it's heartening to see an influential company like Valve actually not being shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Better than the ones that take and give nothing back though permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (14 children) Just wish it was coming from a non-commercial entity. Puts a sour note on the status of Linux gaming that a for-profit entity is the only one out there making meaningful progress. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (9 children) Lots of for-profit commercial entities contribute to open source projects. The code they're contributing is covered by the same license as the code contributed by volunteer developers. I understand why we should be cautious about these things, but the current situation is that Valve is contributing a lot and their contributions are open source. Yeah, they're doing it for a profit motive, but not to the point where they're trying to kill open source projects or hide the updates behind proprietary binaries. Valve is, currently, not being evil. GabeN has plenty of yacht money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Yup, long as it's copyleft (GPL) open source, I don't care if it's microslop paying. That said, watch out for a new wave of EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) using unmaintainable AI code, and be ready to fork. Valve, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago Yeah, exactly. If they ever try anything you can just fork from just before that update. While they play nice, their contributions are welcome and improve software for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gabe really is one of the exceptions that not all CEOs are evil bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nah. No one, not even Gabe Newell, deserves a billion dollars. The very act of having that much wealth when there are still hungry and homeless people is in itself evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Right, but we look at examples like Chromium and we can see where there is still so much potential for things to go sideways. GabeN and his yacht could sink to the bottom of the sea and his estate sells control of Valve to someone less benevolent. A commercial entity that has enough control over a project pushes the direction of that project in their favor. And sure you can fork a FOSS project at any time, but once the commercialized version has enough saturation, user inertia and lack of experienced developers to take that initiative often prevents alternatives from achieving success. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago I think the big difference is Valve isn't really in control of many of the projects they're funding, they're mostly just bringing in existing maintainers as contractors and letting them work on what they want. Chromium on the other hand has always been something Google has explicitly been in direct control of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago Unfortunately it’s very hard to fund non profit work in the current economy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 7 months ago on the flip, it's heartening to see an influential company like Valve actually not being shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Better than the ones that take and give nothing back though permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (9 children) Lots of for-profit commercial entities contribute to open source projects. The code they're contributing is covered by the same license as the code contributed by volunteer developers. I understand why we should be cautious about these things, but the current situation is that Valve is contributing a lot and their contributions are open source. Yeah, they're doing it for a profit motive, but not to the point where they're trying to kill open source projects or hide the updates behind proprietary binaries. Valve is, currently, not being evil. GabeN has plenty of yacht money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Yup, long as it's copyleft (GPL) open source, I don't care if it's microslop paying. That said, watch out for a new wave of EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) using unmaintainable AI code, and be ready to fork. Valve, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago Yeah, exactly. If they ever try anything you can just fork from just before that update. While they play nice, their contributions are welcome and improve software for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gabe really is one of the exceptions that not all CEOs are evil bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nah. No one, not even Gabe Newell, deserves a billion dollars. The very act of having that much wealth when there are still hungry and homeless people is in itself evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent [–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Right, but we look at examples like Chromium and we can see where there is still so much potential for things to go sideways. GabeN and his yacht could sink to the bottom of the sea and his estate sells control of Valve to someone less benevolent. A commercial entity that has enough control over a project pushes the direction of that project in their favor. And sure you can fork a FOSS project at any time, but once the commercialized version has enough saturation, user inertia and lack of experienced developers to take that initiative often prevents alternatives from achieving success. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago I think the big difference is Valve isn't really in control of many of the projects they're funding, they're mostly just bringing in existing maintainers as contractors and letting them work on what they want. Chromium on the other hand has always been something Google has explicitly been in direct control of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Yup, long as it's copyleft (GPL) open source, I don't care if it's microslop paying. That said, watch out for a new wave of EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) using unmaintainable AI code, and be ready to fork. Valve, not so much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago Yeah, exactly. If they ever try anything you can just fork from just before that update. While they play nice, their contributions are welcome and improve software for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago Yeah, exactly. If they ever try anything you can just fork from just before that update. While they play nice, their contributions are welcome and improve software for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bananskal@nord.pub 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gabe really is one of the exceptions that not all CEOs are evil bastards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nah. No one, not even Gabe Newell, deserves a billion dollars. The very act of having that much wealth when there are still hungry and homeless people is in itself evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 5 points 7 months ago (3 children) Nah. No one, not even Gabe Newell, deserves a billion dollars. The very act of having that much wealth when there are still hungry and homeless people is in itself evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I guess. Does he not donate to any charities or anything? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) He donates sometimes not super often. Definitely not a big philanthropist in that way. But he does fund ocean research. So that's cool. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bananskal@nord.pub 1 point 7 months ago At least one silver lining I guess permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Right, but we look at examples like Chromium and we can see where there is still so much potential for things to go sideways. GabeN and his yacht could sink to the bottom of the sea and his estate sells control of Valve to someone less benevolent. A commercial entity that has enough control over a project pushes the direction of that project in their favor. And sure you can fork a FOSS project at any time, but once the commercialized version has enough saturation, user inertia and lack of experienced developers to take that initiative often prevents alternatives from achieving success. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago I think the big difference is Valve isn't really in control of many of the projects they're funding, they're mostly just bringing in existing maintainers as contractors and letting them work on what they want. Chromium on the other hand has always been something Google has explicitly been in direct control of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago I think the big difference is Valve isn't really in control of many of the projects they're funding, they're mostly just bringing in existing maintainers as contractors and letting them work on what they want. Chromium on the other hand has always been something Google has explicitly been in direct control of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago Unfortunately it’s very hard to fund non profit work in the current economy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homes@piefed.world 8 points 7 months ago on the flip, it's heartening to see an influential company like Valve actually not being shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Better than the ones that take and give nothing back though permalink fedilink source parent