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Claude AI down: Anthropic users hit with errors as chatbot goes offline (www.the-independent.com)
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how tf am i supposed to get any work done now?

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[–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

sure let’s just burn down half a hectare of the amazon for a seven line script

that would probably be a couple hundred tokens so the same energy use as a google search

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    a google ai search, sure. a normal web search uses several orders of magnitude less energy.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    to be fair I use https://www.ecosia.org/ which is climate positive so anything else I do on the web is carbon negative, however I also have solar and a battery and export power at night so I am technically climate positive (I reduce more emissions than I make)

    also I mainly use lechat tbh, it's french and aims to be climate friendly:

    The project will support large-scale AI model training and inference workloads, leveraging Sweden’s renewable energy capacity and EcoDataCenter’s established footprint in sustainable data center operations. The facility is expected to be powered primarily by renewable energy sources, aligning with both companies’ commitments to reducing the carbon intensity of AI compute.

    https://dcpulse.com/news/mistral-ai-ecodc-ai-facility-sweden

    If the grid is more green, the data centres are more green, and in the most tech heavy place on earth:

    The growing portfolio of grid-scale batteries in California, the world’s fourth biggest economy, hit a stunning new peak earlier this week, reaching a share of 44 pct of evening demand at once stage in the early evening.

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/grid-batteries-reach-stunning-new-peak-of-44-pct-of-evening-demand-in-worlds-fourth-biggest-economy/

    They're rapidly getting pretty green

    It's not my fault Americans are innovative enough to come up with a magic computer code box but not smart enough to install a bunch of solar panels and batteries :\

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    so fun fact, i live within walking distance of that dc project (close enough that i was invited to attend a presentation by edc on what it would do to the immediate area) and i've done the math on the grid load. the hydro plants in the city currently meets about 40% of its needs. edc wants 750MW of reserve power generation (that's diesel) installed on the site. if we assume that's double their average usage, they will still more than double the energy needs of the city. and that's in the middle of an infrastructure crisis that means we're stuck buying german coal.

    ecosia has always felt kinda skeevy to me, because tree planting isn't actually carbon positive. it becomes positive after 40 or so years, granted that the trees are not cut down. which is usually what happens. also, just like ddg, ecosia is dependent on bing, the search provider with the worst carbon footprint, to function.

    and i probably don't need to tell you what cobalt mining does to the environment or the people who handle it.

    so it does help to look deeper at the things in your daily life :)

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    that means we’re stuck buying german coal.

    is germany increasing or decreasing the amount of coal it burns every year?

    ecosia has always felt kinda skeevy to me, because tree planting isn’t actually carbon positive. it becomes positive after 40 or so years, granted that the trees are not cut down. which is usually what happens.

    they have a blog post on this

    https://blog.ecosia.org/how-do-ecosia-trees-survive-cut-down/

    the tree counter for example aims to match reality not hope:

    For instance, if we plant 1000 trees and know from experience that the mortality rate in this area is 25%, we’ll only add 750 trees to our tree counter. We continually measure the survival rate of the trees we plant, through inventories and satellite technology, and adjust our tree counter accordingly.

    Pretty much every tree planting project now involves cooperating with the local community around the trees, in some cases money goes to them to buy goods to prevent them from needing to cut down the trees

    Not only that but tbh it’s just a good thing :)

    also, just like ddg, ecosia is dependent on bing, the search provider with the worst carbon footprint, to function.

    you are out of the game too long, they switched to google a while ago:

    https://archive.md/cGE0Z

    but! even better!

    For the first time in its 16-year history, Ecosia users in France will now receive a proportion of their search results directly from EUSP’s independent European index. The rollout aims to serve 30% of French search queries by the end of the year.

    https://tech.eu/2025/08/06/ecosia-rolls-out-independent-search-results-in-europe-taking-another-giant-step-away-from-big-tech/

    How exciting!

    Try to stay positive eh ;)

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    is germany increasing or decreasing the amount of coal it burns every year?

    right now, they're ramping up massively.

    they have a blog post on this

    that's nice, if a bit loose. i hope it's a working solution.

    you are out of the game too long, they switched to google a while ago

    that link is broken for me, but from their privacy policy it seems they use both. not that google is any better, unfortunately.

    For the first time in its 16-year history, Ecosia users in France will now receive a proportion of their search results directly from EUSP’s independent European index.

    that's very good to hear. hopefully it rolls out to more than just france.

    Try to stay positive eh ;)

    thanks for the reminder. genuinely.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (-1 children)

    Unless you maintain and protect a large swath of nature

    what about this

    https://www.bankaust.com.au/about-us/conservation-reserve

    😁

    the energy costs for the restaurant to operate, maintain their structure, maintain the roads for you and the employees to get to and from, costs of employee transit

    that would be split though? a bit like a bus or train, average costs to produce the meals would be lower as they’re made in bulk

    You are highly unlikely to be cradle to grave climate positive

    that is true, you can see my ecologi link in my profile with my eventual goal, although that’s just for the sake of it

    i have recently funded a second solar battery which should reduce another few thousand co2’s out of the air every year pushing me even further co2 positive

    there is also corena which i want to donate too after this damn russin invasion is up, money goes to them, they lend it out at low interest rates, the money comes back and they can lend it out again, pretty damn good

    https://corenafund.org.au/

    there is still work to be done though, never give up!

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