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[–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

And the war part of Gulf war 2 was an obvious victory.

Really? What were the objectives? Kill a bunch of civilians and hand Saddam over to a lynch mob? Because the end state in Iraq was collapse, chaos and a massive increase in Iranian influence.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    You nailed it in one.

    Wars are fought to knock down opponents. No war has ever had an actual goal of "make that country happy".

    As I said before, the war part of Gulf War 2 was a resounding success that ended the Bathist tyranny in Iraq. That chaos replaced it was not a failure of war fighting which might have been solved by more bullets and bombs, but rather a failure of the post-war peace.

    If Gulf war 2 was a "loss" because it led to chaos and civil war, then WW1 was the biggest loss in history since its end led directly to.tne Nazis. Which i suppose is a reasonable philosophy., except that it would utterly neuter statements about the USA not winning many wars with "nobody else does either."

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