When an Iranian official this week laid out a list of demands to end the war started by the United States and Israel, he added an item that hadn’t been on Tehran’s list before: recognition of Iran’s sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz.

The narrow waterway through which a fifth of the world’s oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) ordinarily passes has emerged as the Islamic Republic’s most potent weapon. And it is now seeking to turn into both a source of potentially billions of dollars in annual revenue and a pressure point on the global economy.

Iran has long threatened to close the strait in case of an attack, but few expected it to follow through – or for it to prove so effective in disrupting global trade flows. The scale of the impact appears to have expanded Tehran’s ambitions, with the new demands suggesting it is seeking to turn that leverage into something more durable.

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[+] -12 points 7 months ago (23 children)

This is the proposal that should be offered to Iran. Iran will be permitted to pursue its nuclear program as long as it's for peaceful purposes. Iran will be strictly monitored for compliance. Any violation will result in invasion by the US, Europe, and any other nations willing to join in. If Iran agrees to the proposal, all sanctions will be immediately lifted. It's unnecessary for Iran to have sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz. If sanctions are lifted, Iran will be making money from oil and other exports. Unlike Trump's 15-point peace plan, mine is simple.

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    I can't tell if you're taking the piss at the agreement made under Obama or if you're actually serious.

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  • [–] -2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    If my proposal resembles Obama's that's fine. Accept his. My desire is for peace.

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  • [+] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Iran has claimed that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. My proposal enables Iranian leaders to save face since they can claim their nuclear program has always been for peaceful purposes. It saves Trump's face because he can claim that he only wanted Iran not to have nuclear weapons.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    This is basically just the Obama Iran deal. It was working pretty much exactly like this until Trump tore it up and began in multiple rounds attacking Iran.

    After this war, Iran has no reason to sign such a deal especially since Trump and Israel will just tear it up whenever they want. Iran needs security guarantees which your deal doesn't provide.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (9 children)

    Then I will include security guarantees. If the US and/or Israel attacks Iran while Iran is abiding by the agreement, Russia, China, and Europe would intervene militarily to protect Iran.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Lol so now Russia China and Europe have to jump into militarily attack the US ? This is your plan? Well sounds solved to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    They don't have to attack the US and/or Israel, just send troops to Iran. This would include not only ground troops but air and ground forces. Russia is near Iran. Seeking military forces would be easy.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    Yes they could do that. But why would they commit to that?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    You said Iran would want security guarantees. This is it. Russia and China would definitely agree to it since Russia wouldn't want an Iran controlled by the US and China needs Iranian oil.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    China is getting Iranian oil right now and the US isn't going to control Iran. Why would either of them commit to this? Pretending like you solved the problem when none of the incentives line up is ridiculous. Either of them could militarily defend Iran if they want to without commiting to a security guarantees for Iran. So why would they bind themselves unnecessarily?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    How well did that work out for Ukraine?

    The realpolitik answer is always to get nukes before they can stop you. Look at how well it worked for Israel and North Korea.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but the US and Israel can stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb, but Trump should stop at that rather than demanding things such as ballistic missiles with limited range and no aid to organizations such as Hezbollah.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    I would prefer a UN-style nuclear agency that builds and maintains power-generating facilities independent of geo politics.

    Their goal should be to provide power anywhere that isn’t completely unstable and the receiving country has to amend their constitution to acknowledge that the power gets turned off if they fuck around.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Iirc two largest manufacturers of reactors are China and Russia. Plus you need to buy the fuel, with post-Soviet countries, especially Kazakhstan, being the largest exporters. Good luck with the independence from geopolitics.

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