blindbunny comments on 'There are no plans to drop support for SteamOS': The Finals devs commit to Steam Deck and Linux players despite new kernel-level anti-cheat

They paid them one time to use their voices for AI generation, which is a sketchy practice notwithstanding the fact it makes the voices sound unnatural and is effectively just an excuse to not pay workers.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly I was fooled. I thought they paid the folks for new lines. But I honestly didn't look into it. Damn scared I'm gonna get some yuck next time I play it.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

You might be waiting a while for that. Venture capital funded and so far have made a Battle Royale and an Extraction Shooter. Will probably be a Survival game next if a new trend doesn't come along first.

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

Battle Royale? Do you think the finals is a battle royale? Do you know what a battle royale even is? Because the finals is pretty obviously not a battle royale bro jfc.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Battle Royale bro? Not in the strictest sense of "is it PUBG", but it has a lot of the genre's elements in there. It's basically a hyper speed Hunger Games with heroes. I'd say it's a fusion of BR and Hero Shooter for sure.

The point is, it is about as far from a single player experience as you are going to get.

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

You’ve got to be joking me. It’s closer to an arena shooter than a battle royale. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

It’s basically a hyper speed Hunger Games with heroes

Ok first there’s no fucking heroes. There are classes with specializations, but classes are the exact opposite of heroes. I guess Battlefield 3 is a hero shooter now bc they have classes? Second, if you think that this game has anything in common with hunger games you’re not just batshit, but then you also must think that literally every shooter is like hunger games.

The point is, it is about as far from a single player experience as you are going to get.

Oh holy shit stop the fucking presses. An online multiplayer fps is not a single player game? No way. My mind is absolutely blown this whole time I thought my friends in my party were npc’s and I was playing a single player game.

it has a lot of the genre’s elements in there.

There’s really no point in continuing this conversation, but please tell me what battle royale elements does the finals have? I mean specific game elements, not just saying something vague like “it’s like hunger games”.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Take the blinkers off, have a sip of water, calm yourself down a bit.

I love The Finals. You don't need to jump into a thread to defend it from me like it's your first lover. Getting worked up about me labelling it a Hero Shooter and then stating it has zero elements of a Battle Royale is absolutely deranged. Battlefield is literally one of the origins of the hero shooter genre. Classes and gadgets are very customizable but have hero shooter mechanics in that the 3 different body types have distinct abilities and utilities.

It may not be a "circle closes on one lifed competitiors" pure PUBG BR. But it is a dystopian game show where people (albeit avatars) are pitted against each other in a fight to the death (albeit with a monetary points scoring element). Like, you know, Battle Royale.

Oh holy shit stop the fucking presses. An online multiplayer fps is not a single player game? No way.

Oh so you agree they tend to make only multiplayer live service games? Which was my entire point. I guess there was no reason to argue about genre based semantics at all!

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

No one dies. It’s a virtual tournament. It’s literally paintball in the future. It’s not a battle royale. You’re insane if you think it’s a battle royale. Battle royale is a defined subgenre of fps at this point, and this carries none of the battle royale characteristics. You couldn’t come up with a single facet of this game that resembles a battle royale game, so you fell back to drawing comparisons with a Korean movie that still aren’t accurate.

Cool I’m glad you like the game. I like it too. I’ve been playing since CB1. It’s not a BR and shares nothing in common with BRs.

I’m not “defending it like it’s my lover” (which sounds incel af btw). Im not arguing with you about semantics. I’m clearly stating that you’re totally wrong about genres. So wildly incorrect that I’m convinced you’re trolling. I want to get into more of what you said about hero shooters, but further communication with you is probably going drive me to literal insanity. Good bye.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So wildly incorrect that I’m convinced you’re trolling.

You can think that if it helps you sleep if you like.

I guess BRs must all have some sort of airdrop beginning, a deadly moving circle and permadeath. In which case I guess Apex, Warzone and PUBG itself ceased to be BRs since they introduced respawning. From now on, everything will be labelled "Arena Shooter".

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

You’re putting words in my mouth I never said. I also said goodbye, because this conversation is going nowhere. You just can’t accept the fact that you could possibly be wrong can you?

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[+] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

Haha. “My initial comment was facetious”, the go to weasel phrase for someone that knows they’re wrong.

Go look up the official brand guidelines for the finals then think very hard about what kind of game it is. You don’t have to tell me, but I know you’re going to respond with an attempt at a snarky or “witty” reply anyway because you can’t help yourself.

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[+] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Yeah bro you don’t get to say absolutely wrong things as fact, defend them as fact, then say “hurr durr my username is no /s i was being super duper sarcastic the whole time”. I mean you can say it, but everyone sees right through you.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Hmmm, maybe you should read what I said again.

Game design is one of the only things that I try to engage with seriously on Lemmy. I was genuinely discussing elements of genres that aren't as cut and dry as you dismissively poo pooed without actually providing any backup for what elements you think are crucial to any of those genres. There was no real discussion, but thst was not because of me throwing in some sarcasm occasionally.

The mods have removed some of my comments for some reason and I guess I will just stop engaging seriously here and go back to shitposting. Trying to talk seriously about elements of game design is obviously frowned upon and just repeatedly calling someone stupid and wrong is encouraged.