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what best countries for trans ppl and overall in your opinion (self.mtf)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/mtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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i live in russia now

honestly i hate all govrenments, idea of bordering humans etc
nowhere i will be good all life, nowhere is good
everywhere fucking capitalists and shitty politics

and what if i move spending 5464653364 euros to good country and i dont will even have right for vote and right wing idiots win by shitty losungs in 15s videos from tiktok etc etc
the example is US

i dont care in which fucking country i live everywhere is bad ppl and good ppl and there no wrong nations

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[–] 12 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Russia is pretty bad.

There are various sites and rankings of best and worst countries, here's one from 2023:

https://asherfergusson.com/global-trans-rights-index/

Roughly, getting into an EU country or Canada would be the best. It's very difficult to immigrate to these countries, though - especially the ones best for trans rights tend to also have very strict immigration requirements and laws.

To be honest, Russia is so unsafe I would just prioritize getting into any Western country. Trans rights are undergoing a lot of change, places like the US which traditionally were very good from trans rights and healthcare perspectives have shifted to the right and become anti-trans. Canada is seeing the rise of a right-wing populist movement that has connections to the anti-trans movement. Anywhere you go is not guaranteed to be safe, so it's important to think practically about what matters most to you.

It's good to be in a safe place with strong rights (living in California for example would be a great option), but you have to consider access to care, what care you need, what it will cost, etc.

And prioritizing those needs might also be important - Russia simply isn't safe, so getting out is the top priority, probably.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Wow what an out of date list. The United Kingdom gets an A-? Damn they're really circling the drain on this one

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    It is from 2023. A little out of date.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    yeah, the situation globally is shifting rapidly, mostly against trans rights (but the EU recently ruled that trans women are women, so it's not all bad).

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Laws and rulings are nice, but the real safety concern is the general attitude of the population towards trans people. In a country that has a low public opinion of trans people you're more likely to get beat up. Laws only really help with punishment of the perpetrators. And that's largely dependent on the attitude of police. It's easy for them to "accidentally" break with procedure so a case gets thrown out or just be intentionally bad at their job.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    I largely agree with this, laws are second to the real-feel of how people are on the ground, though they can relate to one another. Where I used to live, it was legal to discriminate against trans people regarding housing and so on, but where I live now, I know it's illegal and the culture is different here as well. I'm not in the biggest city area, and it's still much better - so sometimes better laws do track better culture, too.

    Either way, yes - laws won't really protect you, they just might protect you in certain legal matters and give you recourse for justice if you are wronged (in some places).

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago

    That's a really strange ranking system they're using. Take a look at a place like Uruguay, which has criminalised hate speech, which has legal protection and recognition of trans people, a public health care system which covers GRS and HRT but also allows for self ID, and has complete separation of church and state, and the highest safety and standards of living in South America. Yet somehow, it's ranked below Botswana, which has constitutional protection of same sex rights, but no explicit protections of trans rights...

    And then there is Paraguay, which they've given the lowest possible ranking, and on paper, that makes sense, as they have no specific protections and a conservative government. Don't get me wrong, it's no bastion of trans rights, but in terms of safe places to travel, it's much safer than the other places they've ranked as "F" simply because Paraguayans as a people don't get in folks faces. They're largely Christian and may hold negative opinions about LGBTQ folk, but they keep that to themselves, and it rarely manifests in violence, and consequently, is much safer than you would expect given the individual elements.

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