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[–] 13 points 7 months ago (22 children)

Our work said no. Honestly i kinda hope we run out of fuel. Allies of the US need a kick in the bum to make a move on trump and this is it. This shit is getting expensive, and thats before you think of the live's lost already. Just embrace China, why fight it. Change is the only constant

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    We need to speed-run to the “And Find Out” part for all the fucking around by the powers that be.

    Unfortunately the MSM and MSSM are pushing the Xenophobic narrative that our current societal collapse is not due to people being fucked over by big business, sexism and fascism, but by anyone who is not the same as you.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    All energy supply. And also all energy infrastructure.

    This covers both Fossil and Renewable.

    Corporate Astroturfing against Renewables needs to be exposed and banned. All political parties need to acknowledge that Renewable is the future, but our reliance on Fossil fuels are the bootstraps we need to pull on to get there.

    Infrastructure needs to be Compulsorily Acquired for the nation through Eminent Domain. (Including other utilities and financial infrastructure and assets).

    The Public Sector needs to be constantly audited to prevent any pork barrelling and corruption needs to be exposed as the crimes they are, with legal ramifications for those who are exposed.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    If you your saying is true, then the Astroturf campaigns that are funded by the Fracking Companies would focus on the unrecyclability of turbine fins/blades, solar panels and lithium batteries.

    In this case, they would be sued by battery and solar panel manufacturers and it would go to court.

    Instead, the astroturfing campaigns focus on ridiculous claims like “birds will get hurt when they fly into turbine blades” and “high-tension power lines look ugly and hurt my feelings”.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (1 child)

    We need to somehow invent batteries and solar panels that can be made using nothing non-renewable, but we’re not even close.

    This is simply untrue. Here's an in depth Technology Connections video about renewable power, including the ease of recycling both solar panels and batteries

    Solar panels are 90% recyclable and most parts can be easily separated by hand. The aluminum, glass, silver and copper can then be simply melted down. The only reason it isn't more common is that the labor costs are more expensive than buying virgin raw materials - a capitalism problem, not a technical problem.

    Likewise, most batteries are recyclable by simply separating the electrodes and melting them down. For alkali metals like Lithium and Sodium you have the complication of having to work in an inert space but that doesn't make it impossible, just more work (Edit: Ask a chemistry graduate, they have probably done this in a glove box before). Again, it's a problem of the labor cost of recycling being prohibitive, not a technical problem. Lithium batteries are 98% recyclable.

    The suggestion that 98% recyclable batteries are somehow less sustainable than oil-based fuels that are literally burnt up and completely unrecoverable is ludicrous.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Who is this "we" who is going to take ownership of this?

    The neo con govt that jumps when any industry sneezes?

    The energy companies themselves going to do it because they are all about doing what's right for the country / consumer / anything other than profits?

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  • [–] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    White people. They're talking about white people.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    If that’s the lesson you think needs to be learned, you’ve learned the wrong lesson from this.

    As another person said, we're at the "And Find Out" stages of climate change and fossil fuels.

    We need to take more ownership of our petrol/diesel/oil supply.

    Or maybe we could shift away from the fossil fuel fetish toward sustainable sources of energy.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

    We export like 90% of our crude oil and we've only got like 2 refineries so we also import like 80% of our refined oil.

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